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Egg on Their Faces - Government dietary advice often proves disastrous.
City Journal ^ | Summer 2010 | Steven Malanga

Posted on 07/30/2010 8:00:29 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem
You mean all of the stuff the Wookie just told me to eat isn't good for me?
21 posted on 07/31/2010 1:17:03 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: neverdem
WestonAPrice.org: Solid science, not like the gov/med/ag monopoly.
22 posted on 07/31/2010 4:49:51 AM PDT by eens (beware the errors of Russia)
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To: PA Engineer
Every five years, the federal Department of Agriculture and Department of Health and Human Services revise their Dietary Guidelines for Americans...

Where in the Constitution is this power delegated to the Federal government, I wonder?

23 posted on 07/31/2010 7:22:40 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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24 posted on 07/31/2010 9:05:04 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Thanks...


25 posted on 07/31/2010 10:05:06 AM PDT by GOPJ (..Liberalism is Intolerance..- - Freeper Eric in the Ozarks)
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To: neverdem
According to Scientific American, growing research into carbohydrate-based diets has demonstrated that the medical establishment may have harmed Americans by steering them toward carbs.

But, but, but - it was the liberal 'fashion of the day' diet - how could it be wrong?

26 posted on 07/31/2010 10:07:51 AM PDT by GOPJ (..Liberalism is Intolerance..- - Freeper Eric in the Ozarks)
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To: sergeantdave

Outstanding advice, especially Number 3.


27 posted on 07/31/2010 1:12:35 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Scythian

Calc magn is also a great natural sleep aid!


28 posted on 07/31/2010 1:19:16 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: sergeantdave
Kind of like that but with a twist ~ let's say you are both diabetic and gluten intolerant. Right off the bat you have been wiped out of eating doughnuts in this country, and until recently every form of pastry or pasta known to man!

So, what to eat?

Well, you start the day with meat and fish and eggs. At lunch you again have some meat and fish and eggs. Dinner is a question ~ depends on your blood sugar readings because the diet of meat and fish and eggs pretty much puts your liver in charge of sugar production.

If the blood sugar is low, then you have some nuts (ground nuts, tree nuts, or whatever) for dinner ~ with maybe a snack of some processed rice product, and doults (nori).

If your blood sugar is high toward evening you skip dinner, and the snack.

There are some limitations in this diet. For example you don't want to pick up any of those pre-frozen, pre-breaded imitation fish do-hickeys. You should also skip over the breaded pork tenderloin, and the chicken fried steak, or the breaded chicken.

The best bet is just meat, just fish and just eggs ~ maybe sometimes an egg-salad.

29 posted on 07/31/2010 1:20:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: PA Engineer

Excellent post.

Perhaps you’ve read “Good Calories, Bad Calories” by Gary Taubes? Excellent history of the science of obesity - a truly amazing story.


30 posted on 07/31/2010 2:10:31 PM PDT by Buckhead
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To: PA Engineer
The government medicine food pyramid was pushed through by George McGovern during the Carter Administration. The onset of epidemic obesity and young to mid-life type II diabetes tracks well to this act.

It also coincides with the pervasive use of high fructose corn syrup, especially in soft drinks. Fructose metabolism generates the glycerol "spine" of triglycerides. Thanks for the comments & links.

31 posted on 07/31/2010 3:44:15 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Buckhead
Thanks. Will get the book.

I began looking in to Metabolic Syndrome a little over four years ago. There were very few publications, but the clinicians looking into it were the first to control for carbohydrates in their studies. The results had confirmed what I observed from being on a low cal diet including the role of TAG.

I was particularly concerned about unstable plaque and the role of TAG and endothelial inflammation. This explained a great deal about the rise in acute myocardial infarction, sudden death and increased stent surgery over the past few years in healthy adults with minimal cardiac vessel blockage.

What is remarkable is how quickly a very low carb diet can reverse the risk factors and damage.

Today I am very surprised at the amount of recognition MetSyn is receiving. I think the light bulb had gone off all over.
32 posted on 07/31/2010 3:56:58 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: PA Engineer

Taubes’ book is one of the best science books I’ve ever read. It is comprehensive on the history of the science of obesity, the development of the misguided and fake consensus that was adopted by the McGovern committee and eventually by the US government, the flawed design of the obesity and heart disease studies that focused on dietary fat and cholesterol, the flawed reasoning from the data that was collected - straining to preserve orthodoxy - the continuously generated data indicating the prevailing orthodoxy was wrong, the resistance thereto, and the overwhelming irrefutable proof that it’s carbs, not dietary fat that makes you fat and causes heart disease, etc. It is a masterful work. You can find an excellent hour long lecture by Taubes on Google video. One of the interesting things he shows in his book is that the low carb, high protein diet was known to be effective in the early 19th century based solely on clinical observation - without any theoretical foundation to explain it. There was a famous and effective diet called the Banting diet in that period. Worked like a charm. Now the science explains at a molecular level metabolic syndrome, insulin resistance, and the role of insulin and blood sugar in fat deposition and mobilization, and in triglycerides, i.e., how and why these diets work and how the bad diets cause all of these problems.

There are lots of smart people working in this area, too many to name. I have seen a brilliant but almost completely extemporaneous presentation - 90 minutes worth - by Dr. Scott Connelly - on all of this. Some of it is here: http://progenexusa.com/Blog/post/Dr-Connelly-Talks-About-Insulin-Body-Weight-and-Energy-Production.aspx. He created MetRx years ago for bed ridden patients to help maintain their muscle mass, and now has a recovery product called Progenex that’s supposed to be “the bomb.”

Regards,


33 posted on 07/31/2010 4:32:23 PM PDT by Buckhead
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To: Buckhead

Thanks. Will order today. I did extensive research to come to the same conclusions. Thanks for the video links. Heading over to Amazon.


34 posted on 07/31/2010 5:31:52 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: PA Engineer

Add it to the pile of failed socialist experiments:

Food pyryamid
Welfare
Medicare
Social Security
Public Lands Management
The US Border
Immigration
Gun Control
Government Schooling
Obamacare

I could go on, but I am conserving electrons this week - going green and all that...


35 posted on 07/31/2010 8:00:32 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: PA Engineer

Interesting, thanks.

My Great Aunt lived to 103. She was never fat, tho rounded. Last time I visited, her frig and freezer were full of Sarah Lee cakes, 31 Flavors ice cream, brownies, fruit cake — every imaginable goodie and absolutely NO fruits and vegs. When I offered to stock her frig with ‘healthy’ foods, she told me in no uncertain terms that she had eaten that way all her life and here she was, living alone at 97!

Made me think that I had been sold a bill of goods.


36 posted on 07/31/2010 8:34:34 PM PDT by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
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To: Niuhuru

“A huge fundamental problem is that it’s all about experimentation, no proof of long term benefit.”

nonsense. They knew when they did it that they’d benefit midwestern state agriculture and the political influence that went along with it.

Recently they switched to ethanol.....

But it was no experiment - it was a sure thing - food pyramid generated campaign cash, just like they knew it would.

(You didn’t really think it was about people’s health did you?)


37 posted on 07/31/2010 8:45:21 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: neverdem

Hmmm. Does this remind anyone else of the dietary discussion in Sleeper?


38 posted on 07/31/2010 9:33:36 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: muawiyah

I guess there aren’t any vegetables in your world.


39 posted on 08/01/2010 3:48:29 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: radiohead

“...not what our forefathers ate.”

Somebody published a cookbook with recipes from ca. 1776. Do you recall the name of the book?


40 posted on 08/01/2010 4:16:36 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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