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Real Sherrod Story Still Untold
The American Thinker ^ | 7-30-10 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 07/30/2010 4:05:05 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

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An exercise:

Google News Search -

Sherrod + Edited
3,920 articles

Sherrod + Excerpt
626 articles

Words do mean things - the left uses ‘edited’ to shift the blame onto Breitbart for a tape that he did not edit. The tape was excerpted.

The excerpt was complete and not altered(edited).

If edit and excerpt mean the same thing, why is there a large disparity of word usage? Why is ‘edit’ the favored word?

Why was once ‘Global Warming’ favored and now ‘Climate Change’ is the favorable choice?


81 posted on 07/30/2010 8:34:56 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: Ann Archy

FOX needs to have WILLIE BROWN on!!! That was a VERY INTERESTING comment he made!!!! GO WILLIE!!!


With the way MS Fox News is headed....Willie Brown may be too conservative for MS FNC

Gosh..even today Faux and Friends were gushing over a bogus poll that claimed “62% of Arizonans support letting Illegal Aliens stay”. MS Fox News is pretty much Liberal now...


82 posted on 07/30/2010 8:43:52 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com. You either voting for JD, or voting for the Liberal...)
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To: conimbricenses

That is actually very good news. Breitbart should get a team of lawyers together and bury this b*tch in discovery requests going all the way back to her days with Stokely Carmichael’s “black power” movement in the 60’s.

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It is, and he will.


83 posted on 07/30/2010 9:05:56 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We have, therefore, to resolve to conquer or die. - Samuel Adams)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Shirley is burnt bread.


84 posted on 07/30/2010 9:16:39 AM PDT by safetysign
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Damn. That article pissed me off no end. Nicely done.


85 posted on 07/30/2010 9:22:01 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: bvw
Stop with the robotronic litany of a non-difference.

There is absolutely a difference between editing and excerpting. A major difference, in fact, when you're implying manipulation of the original.

86 posted on 07/30/2010 9:25:25 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

AMEN!!! Most of FOX, except for Glenn Beck, is UNWATCHABLE!


87 posted on 07/30/2010 9:30:28 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; thethirddegree; SueRae; screaminsunshine; agere_contra; gusopol3; ...

This seems like a very important story but I’m a little confused and the discussion here has been terse or sidetracked. Is this article saying that Shirly Sherrod recieved 13 million in direct payments from the Department of Agriculture where she works to her corporation? Did she administer the distribution of these funds or was she solely a beneficiary? Did she get an additional 15 million on top of the 13 million? 80,000 black farmers were paid but only 40,000 exist? Sherrod’s corporation recieved 330,000 just for mental suffering, and a settlement was made for corporate mental suffering? The Obama administration reopened the case unnecessarily and agreed to pay additional moneys that totalled over 1 billion dollars to black farmers?

I really don’t fully understand the article but it seems important.


88 posted on 07/30/2010 10:01:25 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: dead

To say “absolutely a difference” is to repeat the robo-meme.

Excerpting is a form of editing. Fixing typos is a form of editing. Rearranging excerpts — say like the Coppola did to the three Godfather movies in order to produce the chronological “The Godfather Trilogy 1901-1980,” is a form of editing.

An apple is a fruit. A pear is a fruit. To say that Eve gave Adam a pear is wrong. To say that Eve gave Adam a fruit is correct. To say that Eve gave Adam a fruit is a common and old way of quoting the passge.

The word used in the original Hebrew is “p’ri”, which in means fruit of a tree in general, and in some contexts means a more specific fruit, perhaps an apple, even.

The truth here is the edits of the Sherrod video, which were all excerpts kept in order, did present a variant message than that she intended to provide with her whole speech, in in that sense, the excerpted tape was unfaithful to her whole message in a way. However the excerpted tape was indeed a accurate representation of Sherrod’s racism in office and how it negatively affected a fellow human. By being an excerpt highlighting and focused on that action of hers it no more misrepresented her later claimed ‘redemption’ than a security camera of a thief robbing a convenience store misrepresents his possible later ‘redemption’.

And in fact, as we all have learned a bigger picture of Mrs. Sherrod continuing today by her present actions and statements, she still comes off as a truly UNREDEEMED racist.


89 posted on 07/30/2010 10:11:42 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
Typo edit:
To say that Eve gave Adam an fruit apple is a common and old way of quoting the passge.

90 posted on 07/30/2010 10:15:26 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Mere Survival
New Communities was owned by the Sherrods. That corp got $13 mil for the black farmers that supposedly worked the 6,000 acres in the corporation. The Sherrods personally got $150,000 each. Saint Shirley got a job with USDA days later.

There has only been 40,000 black farmers. Ever. But the USDA paid out to 80,000.

Pigford vs Vilsack II was the reopened case where more "damages" were awarded. Most of this is posted on FR.

91 posted on 07/30/2010 10:17:11 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Mere Survival

Good points. The whole robo-meme of ‘excerpt-vs-edit’ distracts from the real story. Breitbart released an edited tape. The edits PROPERLY represented the racial warfare that Sherrod is CURRENTLY part of.


92 posted on 07/30/2010 10:18:59 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
And if they really want to be careful, why did they use the word "sex" rather than "gender"? Gender is the more specific in this context. But instead they used "sex."

Because people do not have genders they have sexes. Words have meaning.

Edit means "to change". Excerpt means "to select a portion of"

So, yes, I WILL INDEED complain when OUR SIDE ADOPTS policies of destructive word games that reinforce and empower that tactic when the social deconstructionists and Marxists use it.

Good. then you will have no objection to using the correct word in this case (Excerpt) rather than the misleading and dishonest word (edit)

93 posted on 07/30/2010 10:21:24 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: DJ MacWoW

Are you getting that the Sherrod’s got 150,000 each from this story or is that out there elsewhere?


94 posted on 07/30/2010 10:33:10 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: John O
Let's answer your side question. What does 'gender' mean and how is that word used, and does it apply to marriage?

Source: {excerpted] http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/gender

GENDER NOUN:

  1. A grammatical category ... that may be itrary or based on characteristics such as sex or animacy ...

  2. Sexual identity, especially in relation to society or culture.
    1. The condition of being female or male; sex.
    2. Females or males considered as a group: expressions used by one gender.

Usage Note:

Traditionally, gender has been used primarily to refer to the grammatical categories of "masculine," "feminine," and "neuter," but in recent years the word has become well established in its use to refer to sex-based categories, as in phrases such as gender gap and the politics of gender. This usage is supported by the practice of many anthropologists, who reserve sex for reference to biological categories, while using gender to refer to social or cultural categories. According to this rule, one would say The effectiveness of the medication appears to depend on the sex (not gender) of the patient, but In peasant societies, gender (not sex) roles are likely to be more clearly defined.

Based on the usage note it is more proper to use 'persons of opposite gender' when referring to marriage as a social contract.

Hope that enlightens you!

95 posted on 07/30/2010 10:35:26 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Mere Survival

It’s out there in other stories. And some of those articles were posted on FR.


96 posted on 07/30/2010 10:38:45 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Mere Survival
Shirley Sherrod was hired by Ag Secy Tom Vilsack shortly after shakedown for $13M

New Communities is due to receive approximately $13 million ($8,247,560 for loss of land and $4,241,602 for loss of income; plus $150,000 each to Shirley and Charles for pain and suffering).

97 posted on 07/30/2010 10:45:01 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Mere Survival
Is this article saying that Shirly Sherrod recieved 13 million in direct payments from the Department of Agriculture where she works to her corporation?

I believe she received it BEFORE she got the job with the USDA And she works for the GEORGIA section, not the Fed, as I read it.

Did she administer the distribution of these funds or was she solely a beneficiary?

She was a beneficiary. Most of the beneficiaries were members of her family, or friends, -- a group that she put together for the purposes of the lawsuit.

Did she get an additional 15 million on top of the 13 million?

I don't know. I think those additional funds were paid to other parties.

80,000 black farmers were paid but only 40,000 exist?

That is my undertanding.

Sherrod’s corporation recieved 330,000 just for mental suffering, and a settlement was made for corporate mental suffering?

No. Sherrod and her husband PERSONALLY received $330,000 just for themselves for metal pain and suffering. The others got an average of $70,000 apiece.

The Obama administration reopened the case unnecessarily and agreed to pay additional moneys that totalled over 1 billion dollars to black farmers?

That is my understanding. More than 4 times the number of pay outs than the estimate were made and more than double the number of "black farmers" that existed were paid.

98 posted on 07/30/2010 10:45:47 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Southeast Wisconsin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Thank you, I’m starting to understand. 13 million is a LOT of money. 300,000 is a lot too, but if big chunks of the 13 million went to Sherrod’s family and friends that makes her not very sympathetic (to say the least). And when did she have this realization about race if she is a recent hire?


99 posted on 07/30/2010 11:00:23 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Thanks, that clears up a lot. What a scandal. Hope Brietbart takes them to the woodshed on this.


100 posted on 07/30/2010 11:01:43 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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