I was thinking about a long-term realignment, on the order of twenty or so years. I do think that is possible that by that time the GOP could reverse that 70%-30% figure. I think the immigration issue is the one thing that just kills us with Hispanic voters, and if that issue were to be solved we could steadily gain ground especially on cultural issues. Come to think of it I do agree that a significant block of Latino voters will be wedded to goodies from government and also there might be a tendency to ‘respect’ tradition, but that in the end culture will triumph. There’s just not a whole lot of tolerance for many of the Dem litmus test positions amongst most Hispanics that I know and read about.
As I said, amnesty alone or with weak provisions is unacceptable, but with a secure border, the elimination of ‘anchor babies’ the absence of state funds for illegals, and all or virtually all of the other provisions I noted I do think Amnesty could help solve the problem of what we do with 10-12 million people we cannot possible deport; do the math. Granted some will leave of their own accord, but apparently even the economic downturn perhaps 10% have left from the all-time high of a few years ago,thus we cannot expect a deluge even with stricter enforcement. Think of it this way, were one thousand per day to leave or be deported it would still take some thirty years for the exodus to reach ten or so million, and during that time the remaining population would have naturally doubled or trebled anyway, leaving the same number.
Even with a comprehensive reform package that seals the border as tight as can be and removes many of the incentives for people to try to come, the 20 million already here has to be addressed *somehow.* Deportation in the numbers necessary to actually reduce those numbers significantly may not be tenable. What if Mexico et al refuse to take them? Mexican officials already try to interfere in our elections on this issue, what if they simply won’t let them in? There’s also the other half or so from countries that don’t border us, how could we possible return them to places like Guatemala and Columbia? Or the Ukraine for that matter?
Pretending they’ll all just disappear is naive in my view. They’ll melt even farther into the underground, and that cannot be good for our social cohesion and security the way I see it.
Seriously, how *do* you deport 5-10 million people from the US?
“Seriously, how *do* you deport 5-10 million people from the US?”
It might pose less of a logistics problem than trying to provide them with healthcare, educations and prison space. But on that note, it is possible to deny citizenship to anyone who enters this country illegally without having a mass deportation program.
The 70 to 30 voting ratio, Democrat to Republican, isn’t getting better, it is getting worse, and an amnesty that allows the eleven to twenty million illegals that are here to become voting citizens will only make that ratio more lopsided, not less. I suppose it is good to dream, but thinking the future of the Republican Party rests on converting Hispanics from liberalism to RINOism, is silly. Amnesty certainly hasn’t accomplished that. It’s not as if we don’t have past data to analyze. Both the immediate and long term future of the GOP will be damaged by another amnesty program. Even though it isn’t going to happen, we do need to secure our borders, as well as reevaluating our immigration policies.
The culture is moving the other way, and nothing about our pop mentality, pop culture is going to do anything but speed that process up. The answer to that problem isn’t moderate, pseudo conservatism. It isn’t political. Think religion, and that is anathema to the GOP moderates who are convinced the hope of the Republican Party rests in placating the radical elements of the Hispanic community. Liberalism moves forward by driving wedges between people. Tensions and divisions between radical Hispanics, illegals, and the majority of Americans who want to stop the amnesty failure will go on as long as liberals are around to agitate.