The resolution passed was on McCain, who was born overseas to 2 US parents. To pretend it is supposed to apply to those born in the US is dishonest. This ‘troll’ says you are a liar...and you’ve proved it here.
“That Obama was born of an alien father is all the evidence needed to show ineligibility.”
BS! It was well accepted prior to anyone hearing of Obama that someone born in the USA was a NBC. There is room for doubt on that question, and it was not unanimous, but it was well accepted. Many writers from the beginning held that view, and by the mid-1900s it was the dominant view.
And yes...anyone claiming Obama has mixed loyalties because he is REALLY a subject of QE2 is an idiot. And thus you and your friends lose every single time.
The troll Mr. Rogers established a “straw dog.” which appears, to the casual reader, to impart an air of objectivity to the troll’s next assertion. Troll Rogers suggests that there was deception. “To pretend it is supposed to apply to those born in the US is dishonest.”The intention of Senate Resolution 511 was not the issue, and barely mentioned, in the original Spaulding response. Senate Res. 511 was always about McCain who was well known not to have been born on our soil, and indirectly, about Obama, because it dishonestly claimed to validate McCain's eligibility. As the honest among us have known, or since learned, no law can amend the Constitution. Further, Senate Res. 511, a resolution, doesn't create law -it is an expression of resolve or belief.
SenRes 511 was hurriedly concocted when McCaskill’s bill, Sen. Bill 2678, February 28, 2008, the “Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act” went nowhere. Would Senators McCaskill, Clinton, Menendez, Leahy, have tried to pass a law making McCain eligible if he were already eligible? When S2678 failed, McCaskill and Leahy took an approach often used which presumes citizens don't understand the jargon of senate process and passed the Res. 511 in April 30 of 2008. The purpose of both Obama campaign advisor McCaskill's senate actions was to insure that McCain would be Obama's opposition. With McCain running no one would dare raise the issue of Obama's ineligibility. Knocking out Obama meant McCain too would be disqualified, and Hillary would likely have defeated any of the dispirited Republican contendors.
When trolls, or anyone for that matter, uses terms like “well accepted,” “room for doubt,” “many writers held,” and “dominant view,” you should presume they have no argument. Troll Rogers asserts that the dominant view held that “someone born in the USA was a NBC.”
Honesty and clarity are synonymous. Here is just one at least thirty examples to demonstrate the truth, as well as warn readers about the tactics of trolls:
From Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 from 1874, Chief Justice Morrison Waite's Opinion of the Court: “At common law, with the nomenclature of which he framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.” The term "native" used by Chief Justice Waite is one of many, including "birthright citizenship" used by Dr. Ramsay and the french terms from the original Law of Nations. The term Obama used to define himself, "Native born citizen of the U.S." is defined in State Department documents as someone born on our soil, which includes "anchor babies." These are citizens by statue, law, and not "born on the soil of citizen parents."
Thank you Troll Rogers for providing the context to again clarify the meaning of Article II Section 1, and to help illuminate the techniques of disinformation propaganda.