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To: rxsid
There must be an unspoken strategy. As you, rsxid, know so well, Barry was born a British subject. Even Patrick Leahy, along with every U.S. Senator in April 2008, agreed that a natural born citizen is born of two citizen parents. There is nothing to discover. Obama never defined himself as a natural born citizen. He said, on fightthesmears.com, “I am a native born citizen of the U.S.” and admitted to dual citizenship. That was, as he knows well, a clear admission that he is not a natural born citizen, and no one stopped him from taking office. He said he is a jus soli citizen, born somewhere on U.S. soil, and not a jus sanguinis citizen, born of citizen parents. Our presidents must be both. I hope LtCol Lakin has excellent lawyers.

Nancy Pelosi presumably signed at least one, and reportedly two, certifications for the only two states which required eligibility validation, Hawaii and Arizona. It sounds like Obama may be covered, because he never claimed to be a natural born citizen, and said before the election that he believed that the Constitution had historical relevance, but needed a new bill of rights to enable him to do what he felt society needed. He might have a problem with the oath of office, which took three trys, and Pelosi probably has immunity as a Senator. But his intention was always to change things, almost certainly including the Constitution. It depends upon what is is!

LtCol Lakin clearly has the courage of his convictions. I wish Dr. Lakin would use the attention his sacrifice has gained him to help others understand what our framers intended based upon their own words, in the Federalist Papers, Dr. Ramsay's Dissertation, Joseph Story, Hamilton, Jefferson, Marshall, etc. etc. We know Obama is not eligible because he told us. Lakin appears not to know that; that is very puzzling! There appears to be a conspiracy to ignore the words of our Constitution and its authors. If enough people were willing to support an amendment to make McCain eligible, that is reasonable. Birth to citizen parents, naturalized, native, or natural born, makes good sense. It does not make sense to ignore one or the other, but as Larry Tribe pointed out, including the children of citizens who happen to be born overseas was considered in 1790, but rescinded in 1795. What is happening now amounts to colluding on a convenient blind spot. It sets a terrible precedent.

22 posted on 07/29/2010 5:19:51 AM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Spaulding

“Even Patrick Leahy, along with every U.S. Senator in April 2008, agreed that a natural born citizen is born of two citizen parents.”

Being dishonest doesn’t help your case. They were referring to a child born OUTSIDE the US of 2 citizen parents. All are agreed that if Obama was born outside the US, he isn’t a NBC.

And anyone claiming Obama has dual loyalty to the UK is an idiot.


28 posted on 07/29/2010 5:58:09 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: Spaulding
Not being a lawyer, I am more interested in the public relations aspect of Larkin’s case.

Only a very guilty foreign usurper would do this to a decorated military officer.

Fundamentally, a **real**, true blue, natural born, American president would be **HONORED** to promptly prove with all of the best evidence that he was a natural born citizen and eligible to be president and Commander in Chief.

32 posted on 07/29/2010 6:19:31 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Spaulding
There is nothing to discover.

Yes there is. A valid birth certificate would prove, in a legal sense, who his father was. So even if everything on the CoLB image was correct, which is highly unlikely given that it is a forgery, then BHO junior is not a natural born citizen.

Sure that fact is generally known, but not in a legal sense. Right now, it's just hearsay. But if the BC, or even a valid, newly produced, CoLB, were entered into evidence in court, then it becomes a legal fact, unless challenged of course, with counter evidence.

41 posted on 07/29/2010 6:50:01 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Spaulding
"There must be an unspoken strategy."

I believe (one of) his civilian attorney stated on one of the radio programs they were interviewed on...that they would pursue all aspects of the usurper in office issue. No proof of birth in HI, and that he was born to a foreign father and he himself was born a subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England.
My understanding is that they are aware of both issues.

125 posted on 07/29/2010 10:16:39 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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