Posted on 07/28/2010 9:21:29 PM PDT by truthfreedom
Here's how you find out what DU is.
Post a thread. It's easy to do. If you make a mistake, the prompts will tell you what you need to add. And the Moderators can correct mistakes too.
Anyway, the title of the thread should be something like "What is DU?"
In the body of the thread, you should mention how you took Responsibility2nd's advice (and a big bong hit) and ask for their help.
I promise you. You will be surprised at the helpful responses.
I'm not a liberal and I'm not on dope.
This is an issue of liberty and whether the state should be empowered to prevent any person from taking actions which could do only themselves harm.
We tried things the "moral" way in the 1920s with the prohibition against alcohol. I'm sure if you had your way we'd go back to that.
Or, perhaps we should outlaw cheeseburgers so our children won't grow up accustomed to eating food that the do-gooders believe to be bad? Should we get rid of candy machines in public places?
At the core, these are all parts of the same issue.
And, as a psychiatrist would you agree that those very same people would have used another substance...alcohol or another drug...to ruin their lives with if they didn't have access to pot?
The “doctor’s note” is a joke. I have had people walk up to me on the street in SF offering (for a fee) to help me obtain the medical marijuana card in order to get high.
There are internet forums where potheads sit around and discuss the best “doctors” to use, which dispensaries have good bud, and so forth. For instance:
http://www.weedtracker.com/forums/
Medical marijuana is a sham - a “gateway drug” to full legalization. But everybody knows that.
“It’s a slippery slope.”
Yawn. Logical fallacy.
Rasmussen, July 2010:
Americans are much more supportive of adults being allowed to smoke marijuana if it is prescribed by a physician. Seventy-five percent (75%) support medicinal marijuana use, while only 14% say patients should not be allowed to smoke doctor-prescribed pot. Support for medical marijuana is even higher than it was in October, when 63% said it should be allowed.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/july_2010/43_say_marijuana_should_be_legalized_42_disagree
Words have meanings. The voters never intended for fake doctors to "prescribe" narcotics to stoners. The law was sold as a compassionate gesture toward persons with chronic conditions, but in practice they make up only a tiny minority of users.
Show this page to the survey respondents and your 75% figure will drop well below 50%:
http://www.weedtracker.com/forums/
Face it, the battle against medical marijuana is lost.
Oops, I guess only 14% of the population knows. :)
I'm not sure exactly why you find it hard to believe moving a substance from illegal to legal would result in a drastic drop in prices; taxes or no. There are plenty of reports out there already about street level dope dealers in CA having to drastically cut prices since the medical thing started. And in real dollars, do you suppose a bottle of whiskey costs more now, with all its taxes, or during prohibition?
Adjusted for inflation?
More. Much more.
And cigarettes? Hoo boy. Don’t even go there.
More, more, more. That what taxes do. It what taxes have always done. And if weed is legalized, the tax burden will drive casual users back to the streets. Back to the Mexican cartels for tax free dope. With all the murders that come with it.
Business as usual.
The crime tax of contraband is invariably more significant than any tax imposed directly by any government. What cigarettes have to do with anything at all I'm not sure, since they have never been illegal anywhere I know of. They are trafficked from low to high tax regions, but duh! That doesn't mean banning them would make them cheaper, would it?
You can get a bottle of garden variety Whiskey, taxes and all, today at the corner store for what? $10 or $15 dollars? Less than an hour's worth of your average shmoe's wages. Do you really think that was true during prohibition? You really think those gangsters were shooting each other over a few pennies? And while moonshining certainly still exists, it's more of a cultural thing than people seeking to avoid the man's tax when they want to drink. And when was the last liquor business related murder, anyway?
As a former weed aficionado, I can tell you: dopers will be more than happy to pay the state's tax in exchange for a regular supply of the good stuff. And the tax will be far less than those risking their freedom to traffic the stuff demand.
"Six distilleries were given permits to sell medicinal whiskey during Prohibition-A. Ph. Stitzel, Glenmore, Schenley, Brown-Forman, National Distillers and Frankfort Distilleries-and these companies were allowed to store whiskey and sell it to licensed druggists, who in turn could mete it out to customers who had a doctor's prescription."
http://www.prohibitionrepeal.com
oh okay. It is foolish for the govt to allow a drug that has medical benefits, and is less dangerous to your body than alcohol or tobacco. Why? Oh I know. The drug culture probably angers you. Maybe if you think about it, really hard, you will realize that this drug culture only exists because marijuana is ILLEGAL.
I guess some people want a nanny in high heels to fly down on a broomstick and tell people what they can and cannot do in their own house. That doesn’t sound very “conservative” to me.
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