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1 posted on 07/28/2010 10:19:58 AM PDT by God luvs America
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Its Obama’s fault!


29 posted on 07/28/2010 10:26:58 AM PDT by Always Independent
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I guess we don’t need no stinkin ID anymore. Illegals can be contractors, pilots, Dr.’s, bus drivers, etc... The only people who need ID’s are the people who have MONEY so the government can take it because there are so many laws you are bound to break one of them. SICK


30 posted on 07/28/2010 10:27:21 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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This will be the “gay marriage” of this election—the defeat of a conservative position feeds conservative turnout in the next election.

While I of course would have wanted a different result here, I think this will help tip a number of elections toward R.

And I ain’t no optimist—it just seems like the way these things go.


32 posted on 07/28/2010 10:27:39 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Barack Obama, the Coleman Francis of presidents.)
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To: God luvs America

Being a citizen has become a liability.


33 posted on 07/28/2010 10:27:47 AM PDT by rhombus
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Nothing on Fox site


34 posted on 07/28/2010 10:27:50 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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So do it like Obama: reword the law and issue an executive order. Then do it again and again until the judge gives up.

That’s how it works, right?


35 posted on 07/28/2010 10:27:53 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Anyone can fib. It takes an intellectual to tell a really big lie.)
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Oh good, getting a new drivers license from time to time is a real PITA. I hate those photos too, so between that an not having to carry proof of insurance anymore we're all good to go!

Hey, next move, let's stop filing those pesky taxes every years. That's got to be unconstitutional too.

36 posted on 07/28/2010 10:28:09 AM PDT by McGavin999 (I'm sorry, your race card is overdrawn and no further charges can be accepted)
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Is it possible to build a nuclear weapon that targets only democrats?


38 posted on 07/28/2010 10:28:25 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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So, it’s ok to demand papers from law-abiding citizens, but not from law-breaking trespassers.

So, if you are stopped in AZ, it is best to claim that you may be here illegally and do not have to produce any papers...because a judge said so.


39 posted on 07/28/2010 10:28:26 AM PDT by KEmom (Proud to be a Mama Grizzly!!!)
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Did anyone expect anything different? Really, the rule is simple, a democrat appointed judge will ALWAYS throw the constitution out the door and rule based on politics.

You want to truly restore the constitution in this oountry. It starts with judicial reform. I propose a constitutional amendment that clearly defines the role of the judiciary and makes strict constructionism the law of the land and ignoring it an impeachable offense.


41 posted on 07/28/2010 10:28:34 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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lol ya the illegal part ...cannot determine immigrations status..in other words ...We cannot expect protection from the Federal government

Illegals have all the right. we have none


43 posted on 07/28/2010 10:28:47 AM PDT by dalebert
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Police can't ask about their immigration status.
45 posted on 07/28/2010 10:29:34 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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Reality vs. Myth: SB1070

Make it illegal in the State of Arizona for an alien to not register with the government, thus being an “illegal alien” (already the case at the federal level: 8 USC 1306a; USC 1304e)

Allow police to detain people where there is a “reasonable suspicion” that they’re illegal aliens (see the recent court case Estrada v. Rhode Island for an idea of what “reasonable suspicion” might entail)

Prohibits sanctuary cities (already prohibited at the federal level, 8 USC 1373) and allows citizens to sue any such jurisdiction

Reality vs. Myth: SB1070

Myth No. 1: The law requires aliens to carry identification that they weren’t already required to carry.

Reality: It has been a federal crime (8 United States Code Section 1304(a) or 1306(e)) since 1940 for aliens to fail to carry their registration documents. The Arizona law reaffirms the federal law. Anyone who has traveled abroad knows that other nations have similar requirements. The majority requests for documentation will take place during the course of other police business such as traffic stops. Because Arizona allows only lawful residents to obtain licenses, an officer must presume that someone who produces one is legally in the country. (See News Hour clip 3:45 seconds in)

Myth No. 2: The law will encourage racial profiling.

Reality: The Arizona law reduces the chances of racial profiling by requiring officers to contact the federal government when they suspect a person is an illegal alien as opposed to letting them make arrests on their own assessment as federal law currently allows. Section 2 was amended (by HB2162) to read that a law enforcement official “may not consider race, color, or national origin” in making any stops or determining an alien’s immigration status (previously, they were prohibited in “solely” considering those factors). In addition, all of the normal Fourth Amendment protections against racial profiling still apply.

Myth No. 3: “Reasonable suspicion” is a meaningless term that will permit police misconduct.

Reality: “Reasonable suspicion” has been defined by the courts for decades (the Fourth Amendment itself proscribes “unreasonable searches and seizures”). One of the most recent cases, Estrada v. Rhode Island, provides an example of the courts refining of “reasonable suspicion:”

A 15 passenger van is pulled over for a traffic violation. The driver of the van had identification but the other passengers did not (some had IDs from a gym membership, a non-driver’s license card from the state, and IDs issued from the Guatemalan Consulate). The passengers said they were on their way to work but they had no work permits. Most could not speak English but upon questioning, admitted that they were in the United States illegally. The officer notified ICE and waited three minutes for instructions.

The SB1070 provision in question reads:
“For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or agency of this state . . . where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person.”

Myth No. 4: The law will require Arizona police officers to stop and question people.

Reality: The law only kicks in when a police officer stopped, detained, or arrested someone (HB2162). The most likely contact is during the issuance of a speeding ticket. The law does not require the officer to begin questioning a person about his immigration status or to do anything the officer would not otherwise do.

Only after a stop is made, and subsequently the officer develops reasonable suspicion on his own that an immigration law has been violated, is any obligation imposed. At that point, the officer is required to call ICE to confirm whether the person is an illegal alien.

The Arizona law is actually more restrictive than federal law. In Muehler v. Mena (2005), the Supreme Court ruled that officers did not need reasonable suspicion to justify asking a suspect about their immigration status, stating that the court has “held repeatedly that mere police questioning does not constitute a seizure” under the Fourth Amendment).

Source = http://www.numbersusa.com/dfax?jid=475466&lid=9&rid=123&series=tp06MAY10&tid=999725


48 posted on 07/28/2010 10:29:40 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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I am sick to my stomach. This is disgusting. Now I am 100% positive that something tragic is going down here in Arizona before the elections, and it will be blamed on this.


49 posted on 07/28/2010 10:29:55 AM PDT by derekr44
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Legal analyst on Fox is rambling, but they have said at least once that Arizona cannot require law enforcement to inquire as to immigration status, but not sure they are prohibited from inquiring.

Lots of rambling without getting to the practical effect.


51 posted on 07/28/2010 10:30:04 AM PDT by Will88
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This administration is in derilection of duty. There are no words of curse that are appropriate enough to encapsulate the arrogance, tyranny and elitism found in Obama, the WH and all his agencies. Hitler would be proud of Obama’s capabilities in securing one of the most totalitarian US governments in the history of the country.

God Help Us!


52 posted on 07/28/2010 10:30:24 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Patrick Henry and Joe Wilson...Patriots past and present!)
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Remember in November.


54 posted on 07/28/2010 10:30:24 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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Susan Bolton is a federal judge for the United States District Court for the District of Arizona. She joined the court in 2000 after being nominated by President Bill Clinton.

http://judgepedia.org/index.php/Susan_Bolton

56 posted on 07/28/2010 10:30:32 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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arm yourselves ....illegals have been empowered.


57 posted on 07/28/2010 10:30:37 AM PDT by dalebert
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I guess there’s no need to carry my drivers license around anymore!


58 posted on 07/28/2010 10:30:38 AM PDT by stylecouncilor (What Would Jim Thompson Do?)
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