GM Volt's price induces some sticker shock (the ObamaVolt Car)

Washington Compost ^ | 28 July 2010 | Peter Whoriskey

[InternetTuffGuy]

Lutz basically made a bland, faggotmobile out of what was originally a cool car.

[JD_UTDallas]

Your right the UAW hates the idea of pure electrics, why well the MTBF for an induction electric drive train is in the 20000+ hour rating or millions of miles, without engineered failure like dry starting your petrol motor at least once a day…why do you think class 8 trucks all have pre-oilers and run millions of miles between overhauls? As for cheap electricity to equal the cost per mile in fuel costs, $2.55 a gallon @30mpg (8cents a mile) equates to 34 cents/kwh@250 watt hours per mile or 4.5 times the national average now. Solar panels can be had for that price in a sunny climate even without the solar subsidy on the install, at a gross cap-expense of $16574 average for a residential grid tie 2 kilowatt system this depreciates to a net cost of 34.64cents a kwh over a 25 year system life. That’s just an example even peak power at 17 cents a kilowatt hr is still the equivalent to 4 cents a mile or $1.20 a gallon@30mpg I know I didn’t take in to account depreciation on the battery but I also didn’t depreciate the wear on a petrol engine, oil changes maintenance ect. This is just a fuel cost comparison. So even if “rates necessary have to skyrocket” unless they head north of 34 cents a kwh electricity is still cheap than petrol at the pumps today. Lithium bats are the sports car of the battery world for a range extended electric vehicles the best choice would be metal foam cell lead acid or metal foam cell Edison cells a 10 kwh pack would fit in the underbody of a mid-sized car both technologies can get 2000+ cycles (5 years@365 cycle a) before 80% capacity is crossed. Foam lead cells are an order of magnitude cheaper than LI-ion cells and 100% recyclable as all lead cells are recycled now. There is no coincidence that Chevron-Cobasys holds the patents on large format Nickel Metal bats and expressly prohibits anyone from making a large amp hour cell for vehicular use, look up Panasonic vs Cobasys lawsuit in the judgment Panasonic was fined and agreed not to make an large format NMHI bat for vehicular use in the NORTH AMERICAN market for 15 years you can’t make this stuff up.

[MrPiper]

batteries warrantied for,8 years, 100K miles

Hmmm, I'd hate to know that I needed to purchase ANOTHER set of batteries for my 15 year old truck. (Sitting in the driveway, driven everyday now, does not use oil, 150K miles, original engine/tranny/wheels/seat/carpet/etc.... FORD F150!)15/20mpg

Does not need any repairs......screw Government Motors!! PS, its been paid off for 14 yrs! I like my truck! I bought it new for $10,586.00+tax

[MrPiper]

15 year old truck

One other benefit.... tags cost $60/yr. Starving the beast a penny at a time.

[SkyPilot]

I wonder why they changed that design. That was cool.

Let me guess.....Obama and his thugs pressured Govt Motors into rushing this POS into production, so they went with the "tried and true" quick, boring design.

[nomad]

Looks like one of those POS Malibus.

[GregoryFul]

If you are a taxpayer, you will be paying for 1/5th of each one “sold.”

[MrPiper]

If you are a taxpayer, you will be paying for 1/5th of each one “sold.”

Starting a small business Jan 1 to slow some of that tax money to the feds, it will be legit,,but probable a loser,, darn it I hate that...sole proprietor, because I make to much money on my day job.....

[stephenjohnbanker]

No doubt.

[GregoryFul]

Yes, but remember, that was a Bush approved law in 2007:

After being passed by Congress, Bush just signed into law a massive energy bill that will, among other things, spell the end of traditional light bulb.

We are being dictated to by a bunch of insane, thumb sucking, childish, self-centered idiots. Matter's not what party is currently in majority status. Our whole federal government has become the most dreadful enemy of the people, and of a continuing civil society. We need to disband it and try again.

[GregoryFul]

And you thought Rev. Wright’s: “America, your chickens have come home to roost!” was empty rhetoric.