[allmendream]

“I personally believe it comes from her childhood where the Church in Russia was a willing co-conspirator along with the Romanovs in the oppression of the people.” OTH

What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; in many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient allies.
— James Madison, June 20, 1785

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient allies."

Which is the wall that Jefferson talked about concerning the state and religion. We should all be afraid of any church hierchy becoming intertwined with the government. Such as was common among the European empires of the 12th century through WWI. Tyranny follows with the government having a willing allay. It's amazing how that idea has become twisted into meaning that we can't utter the word God or pray in public...