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To: Girlene; rlmorel; B4Ranch; yoe
Good morning everyone, "They seem to think that "rich" peoples' money is the governments' money. I cannot understand their logic."

I think that for some, their 'logic' can be explained in part by their belief in Facism and/or Cloward-Piven.

I've read about it before, but I think this post summarizes it well:

Here's a paragraph from it:

THIS MEETS BOTH STANDARDS SET FORTH BY CLOWARD-PIVEN. THE GOVERNMENT BENEFIT IS MADE AVAILABLE, THEN AS MANY ELIGIBLE PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE ARE ENCOURAGED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE BENEFIT UNTIL THE SYSTEM COMES CRASHING DOWN OF ITS OWN WEIGHT FORCING THE GOVERNMENT TO HAVE TO STEP IN AND WHOLLY MANAGE IT AS THEY SEE FIT.

4 posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:58:59 AM by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2558656/posts?page=1

The beginning of the thread "Barack Obama, the Quintessential Liberal Fascist (A most timely re-post)" is a link to an article from The American Thinker - Kelly Anne Shiver from May 2009:

In the end, however slow the process, however seemingly benign the growth of the state may seem, liberal fascism has the same result of all tyrannies before it: hell on earth for most and a self-indulgent feast for the Statists in power.

As Barack Obama speaks, thinking Americans ought to hear the echoes of past fascist demagogues and remember. Remember.

When Barack Obama promises "collective redemption" through his profligate spending programs and vast overtures to a new world order built on love for our fellow man, we ought to shudder not swoon.

We ought to remember that healthy global relationships are built upon respect, not all-encompassing love, and that redemption for one's soul is a commodity the state is not empowered to offer.

As Pope Benedict XVI has so presciently warned:

Wherever politics tries to be redemptive, it is promising too much. Where it wishes to do the work of God, it becomes, not divine, but demonic.

In addition, see post #3, I've read things here and there about Obama and Rahm 'preferences' but this is quite a summary (just heard mention recently of Lott, but don't recall reading/hearing anything about Frist or Deval Patrick before)

3 posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:56:45 AM by B4Ranch (Remember, guys, the enemy is to the left and the middle.)

167 posted on 07/25/2010 8:46:46 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: Seattle Conservative

Good collection of posts. Thanks, Seattle Conservative.


176 posted on 07/25/2010 9:00:40 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Seattle Conservative
The Ten Commandments According to Obama

By: Patriot Update

I. Thou shalt have no God in America, except for me. For we are no longer a Christian nation and, after all, I am the chosen One. (And like God, I do not have a birth certificate.) SOURCE

II. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, unless it is my face carved on Mt. Rushmore. SOURCE

III. Thou shalt not utter my middle name in vain (or in public). Only I can say Barack Hussein Obama. SOURCE

IV. Remember tax day, April 15th, to keep it holy. SOURCE

V. Honour thy father and thy mother until they are too old and sick to care for. They will cost our public-funded health-care system too much money. SOURCE

VI. Thou shalt not kill, unless you have an unwanted, unborn baby. For it would be an abomination to punish your daughter with a baby. SOURCE

VII. Thou shalt not commit adultery if you are conservative or a Republican. Liberals and Democrats are hereby forgiven for all of their infidelity and immorality, but the careers of conservatives will be forever destroyed. SOURCE

VIII. Thou shalt not steal, until you've been elected to public office. Only then is it acceptable to take money from hard-working, successful citizens and give it to those who do not work, illegal immigrants, or those who do not have the motivation to better their own lives. SOURCE

IX. Thou shalt not discriminate against thy neighbor unless they are conservative, Caucasian, or Christian. SOURCE

X. Thou shalt not covet because it is simply unnecessary. I will place such a heavy tax burden on those that have achieved the American Dream that, by the end of my term as President, nobody will have any wealth or material goods left for you to covet. SOURCE

199 posted on 07/25/2010 10:10:27 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Remember, guys, the enemy is to the left and the middle.)
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