[Man50D]

We may all believe that but, it is up to SCOTUS and the will of the American electorate to follow that line of thinking. First is the need to keep the voters with us. Second is to get a challenge before the court so they can rule on it.

Wrong. Neither SCOTUS, Congress nor the White House have the final say. The people have the final say as to how they are governed. Anyone who doubts this fact need only look to the Declaration of Independence where our Founding Fathers state the people have the right to alter or abolish the government and replace it with another government.

The Constitution doesn't allow any branch to determine unilaterally what is and is not Constitutional. The Constitution is an unambiguous document that does not suddenly change at the whim of any branch of government, unless the people give their consent. It specifically cites the powers granted to federal and state governments.

[JSteff]

"The people have the final say as to how they are governed. Anyone who doubts this fact need only look to the Declaration of Independence where our Founding Fathers state the people have the right to alter or abolish the government and replace it with another government. "

(Cue up Supertramp "Dreamer".) The sad fact is that the citizens have given up their rights. The dream to follow the right you mentioned of"to alter or abolish the government and replace it with another government" would get you in jail now.

So unless you can show me a couple of examples of the citizenry successfully doing that there is nothing more to talk about. That is a pure dream that can not be exercised in the reality of today's America.

Rush (the group)

[JSteff]

"The people have the final say as to how they are governed. Anyone who doubts this fact need only look to the Declaration of Independence where our Founding Fathers state the people have the right to alter or abolish the government and replace it with another government. "

(Cue up Supertramp "Dreamer".) The sad fact is that the citizens have given up their rights. The dream to follow the right you mentioned of"to alter or abolish the government and replace it with another government" would get you in jail now.

So unless you can show me a couple of examples of the citizenry successfully doing that there is nothing more to talk about. That is a pure dream that can not be exercised in the reality of today's America.

Rush (the group)