Posted on 07/20/2010 11:52:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz
Thats great! I'm just going to give it to FR. They will know how to best use it. Thanks.
I’ll send it marked, lawsuit funds. OK?
Same address as the current fundraiser.
Hope you have matching funds coming too, Jim.
sounds good to me. I just did by cc without notation. Thank you!
Lets roll.
Ping.
Thanks for the ping!
Thank you so much for that information!
This will not be the way Obama, Reid, or Pelosi takes down the opposition.
Just found out about this latest assault on us...
IN, once again, for the fight...
Damn! Is right!
LVRJ is conservative that is why the LVS(a Reid publication) is always trashing them
You know that it is bad when there are even Facebook groups created about it.
(this predates the latest round which includes FR).
Got a few more bucks coming your way, keep up the good work...
In a free and open society, one in which an educated and intelligent populace is essential for its succesful functioning, free exchange of ideas and information is required. That includes the right to critique information, actions, etc, which impact that society and its culture.
This and all attempts by media sources to prevent the discussion of information they are presenting to their readership is a blatant violation of the First Amendment Free Speech right. Their only valid complaint could come from another source taking information they have prepared and selling it. None of these sites does so. They discuss the information being presented and critique it.
This is obviously an attempt by the left to strangle to dissent and keep the public from being made aware of the kind of leftist nonesense being propagated by liberal think tanks which is destroying our nation, our society and our culture.
I hope there is some way they countersue these bastards.
They want to be able to continue to exercise the ability to carry out a surreptitous and clandestine against our culture without it being exposed to general public view and discussion.
Whether or not these bastards win this case is, from their perspective, probably irrelevant.
Their real goal is throw a chill over the free exchange of information relative to their actions, something litigation of this nature will generate.
Websites being sued, blogs being shut down. I think we are missing the bigger picture here.
My point is that there's no "bigger picture", at least in the context of FR being sued for alleged copyright violations and fair use, vs. the other site inadvertently hosting bomb-making tips and an assassination hit list.
Even the title of that article was wrong: law enforcement didn't shut it down -- it was done so by the hosting company after being notified about the content. More from the article I cited:
Marr said the FBI contacted Burst.net and sent a Voluntary Emergency Disclosure of Information request. The letter said terrorist material, which presented a threat to American lives, was found on a server hosted by Burst.net and asked for specific information about the people involved.
In the FBI's letter, the agency included a clause that says Web hosts and Internet service providers may voluntarily elect to shut down the sites of customers involved in these kinds of situations. The Burst.net employee who handled the request erroneously believed that the FBI would want to seize the customer's server and thus the employee cut off service to Blogetery. Marr said the FBI, however, never asked for the server.
Marr said that regardless of the mix-up, Blogetery's service was terminated because bomb-making tips and a "hit list" are an obvious and absolute violation of its terms of service.
The one blog taken down the owner appeared to be a gamer. 70,000 blogs taken down due to bomb making information? Don’t you think that would warrant a big fed investigation?
My original point was takedown of the blogs without cease and desist orders and I feel it is where we are headed under obama. With these new Fair Use lawsuits, it appears to be yet another way to take down opposing websites. Or scare the h*** out of posters/blog/website owners as to what they do online.
I don’t think we have the full story here.
Just like the attempted terrorist attacks that fail, they are but a warning to us. Or a attempt to see how far they (thugs in charge) can go. How many other sites will get the fed notice and get scared and shut the blogs down? Please keep me informed if you get any new info.
Is this a different incident, or this one?
70,000 blogs taken down due to bomb making information? Don’t you think that would warrant a big fed investigation?
Yes, I would. And that's exactly what precipitated it: an FBI investigation, which requested the identity of who posted the information.
The hosting company took down the entire site, because they didn't have the ability to take down individual blogs. The blog management was actually being done by their customer, who is the equivalent of you or me setting up a website and allowing people to create individual blogs.
My original point was takedown of the blogs without cease and desist orders and I feel it is where we are headed under obama.
Since this particular takedown was a voluntary action by the hosting company (and wasn't required by the FBI), I think you are jumping to conclusions.
U.S. Authorities Shut Down WordPress Host With 73,000 Blogs…
http://projectworldawareness.com/2010/07/u-s-authorities-shut-down-wordpress-host-with-73000-blogs/
And that very article has an update link at the bottom to:
Thousands of blogs shut down over 'terrorist material'
And it explains exactly what I said earlier: that the hosting company voluntarily shut it down after being informed about the content.
Some people would get no exercise at all if they weren't always jumping to conclusions.
My advice to Jim after the LA Times episode was to link and excerpt EVERYTHING. It's not up to the copyright holder to demand you not post their full articles, their copyright protection is intact when it is published. If L&E wasn't insisted on all, eventually this was bound to happen.
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