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To: Scotswife
How are they relevant? I received extensive exposure to various “traditionalist” thought - SSPX, Feenyism, sedevanticist, grunerism, etc....

They are not relevant because you did in fact generalise. Your experiences are your own, and reflect only the scope of each experience itself. Regardless of my own personal experience when I expand that experience to cover everyone in a particular body I have generalised. The experience ceases to be relevant once I do that.

Apples and oranges. First of all - you don’t really have tea party “leaders” to point to. And there isn’t an official tea party “dogma” SSPX has material online. Their bishops have much material out there as well as members who regularly contribute to forums. Anyone is free to review the material and see what is plainly there.

No, I disagree. The dogma of the SSPX is that of the Catholic Church, at least up to a specific point in time. (BTW, I add this only to avoid a quibble as I think it is hard to argue that Catholic dogma has in fact changed at any point, but I am sure you would cede this.) Since the Catholic Church was never anti-semitic in its dogma, then it seems hard to suggest that the SSPX is. I have read some of the SSPX material I have seen online, and read and listened to interviews with Fellay et al, and nothing I have seen reflects anything overtly anti-semitic.

114 posted on 07/21/2010 12:45:48 PM PDT by cothrige
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To: cothrige

“Since the Catholic Church was never anti-semitic in its dogma, then it seems hard to suggest that the SSPX is. “

Really?
They’re as pure as that are they?

“I have read some of the SSPX material I have seen online, and read and listened to interviews with Fellay et al, and nothing I have seen reflects anything overtly anti-semitic.”

Really? You are aware they did remove some materials last year right? And that is an excellent start.
Why do you limit yourself to Fellay?
Are you uncomfortable with discussing Williamson? or Lefebvre himself?

Have you read articles written for The Angelus by SSPX priest Frs. Crowdy and Novak?
Are they still priests in good standing?

I did catch Fellays response to the Williamson question, and that is an excellent start.
But I tend to want too much too quickly I guess...I would “like” to hear Fellay specifically correct Williamson on the issue of holocaust denial.
Instead he says - well - we’re not in the history business - we just concern ourselves with faith. Nice dodge.

And what about all the influence Williamson had in the Society for YEARS? And the priests & laypeople who received their formation from him.

Not much talk about that.


121 posted on 07/21/2010 4:06:50 PM PDT by Scotswife
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