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Dishes may sparkle less with Virginia phosphate ban (Mama bear is NOT happy!)
Times Dispatch ^ | July 10, 2010 | JULIE YOUNG

Posted on 07/17/2010 7:03:22 AM PDT by narses

Don't blame your dishwasher if your eating utensils seem a little less squeaky-clean these days. On July 1, a law banning phosphates in dishwasher detergents went into effect in Virginia as part of a Chesapeake Bay cleanup plan.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; US: Virginia
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To: narses; Irisshlass; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...

I want my dishes clean, my clothes white, my toilet to flush and this green nazi garbage to STOP!


2 posted on 07/17/2010 7:05:08 AM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: narses

Good. The less crap we pour down the drain, the better.


3 posted on 07/17/2010 7:07:21 AM PDT by stormer
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To: narses

Do you know where they get phosphates? Right here in Florida there are HUGE phosphate mines. Great big holes in the ground.


4 posted on 07/17/2010 7:07:50 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: narses

Vinegar and baking soda makes a dandy cleaner.


5 posted on 07/17/2010 7:09:56 AM PDT by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: narses

I think I have tried all of the dishwasher soaps out there and Cascade seems to be the best. Of course we have very hard water, too.


6 posted on 07/17/2010 7:09:58 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: narses
Phosphorus, a primary cleaning agent in detergents, causes excessive algae growth in bays and lakes, choking off sunlight and oxygen that organisms need to survive.

Is it just me or does this sound more like a problem with sewage systems that drain into the Bay moreso than a detergent problem?

7 posted on 07/17/2010 7:10:53 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Darnright

I know you pour vinegar in the dishwasher every couple of months to clean it out, what/how much baking soda?


8 posted on 07/17/2010 7:11:56 AM PDT by edcoil (OK, so what's the speed of dark?)
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To: narses

I hear you.


9 posted on 07/17/2010 7:12:08 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: narses
I want my dishes clean, my clothes white, my toilet to flush and this green nazi garbage to STOP!

sigh...me, too. I tried beating my dishes on a rock down by the creek but that didn't work out too well.

10 posted on 07/17/2010 7:16:29 AM PDT by azishot
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To: narses

A few grains of TSP in the dishwasher is all you need.


11 posted on 07/17/2010 7:21:51 AM PDT by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
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To: narses
When are Virginia police going to start busting people for smuggling 20 kilos of uncut Kentucky Cascade?


12 posted on 07/17/2010 7:22:30 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Gun control was originally to protect Klansmen from their victims. The basic reason hasn't changed.)
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I can do without phosphates if it stems algae and algae blooms. Think of the millions and millions of dishwashers putting out phosphates every day. I can do a work-around.


13 posted on 07/17/2010 7:22:46 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Barack Obama: saboteur)
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To: azishot

LOL!


14 posted on 07/17/2010 7:22:51 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: narses
I want my dishes clean, my clothes white, my toilet to flush and this green nazi garbage to STOP!

Stock up on visits to neighboring states.

15 posted on 07/17/2010 7:27:14 AM PDT by BAW (Arizona.got it right.)
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To: narses

The number of dishes that come out of our dishwasher still dirty has skyrocketed since the ban went into effect here in Washington State.


16 posted on 07/17/2010 7:27:43 AM PDT by poindexter
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I can do without phosphates if it stems algae and algae blooms

Big IF, and what are they going to ban next that you can't so easily do without?

I think we should figure out how to harvest the algae. Lots of protein in algae. Could at least use it for animal feed, but if there's enough sugar in it we could probably use it to make methanol.

Government's first instinct is to ban and control, rather than seeing a new resource.

17 posted on 07/17/2010 7:28:45 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: KarlInOhio

Too funny, Karl. I was just thinking about the money making opportunities presenting themselves due to the ban when I saw your post. Great minds.......


18 posted on 07/17/2010 7:29:09 AM PDT by stansblugrassgrl
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To: bboop
A few grains of TSP in the dishwasher is all you need.

TSP == Tri-Sodium-PHOSPHATE.

Banned in Virginia?

19 posted on 07/17/2010 7:30:44 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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“Government’s first instinct is to ban and control, rather than seeing a new resource.”

Yes. Because they are idiots. From the article—

“Phosphorus, a primary cleaning agent in detergents, causes excessive algae growth in bays and lakes, choking off sunlight and oxygen that organisms need to survive.”

...ah, algae IS and organism. Duh!


20 posted on 07/17/2010 7:33:36 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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