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To: wintertime

Might have been poor phraseology as I agree with your arguments. When government gets involved it does so as an extension of the people. Now, I am NOT saying that this means they (government) involved the people in education decisions...after all, Pelosi and Reid demonstrate they do not want the people involved and see themselves as higher than any citizen. However, by absence we are involved too as we empower bad leadership to take our non-involvement as approval for their despicable actions.

Equality of OUTCOME is not any kind of right and government should NOT be involved in that. Equality of access is not a right either as you need to meet standards to get into any organization. Education is not a right, but it IS a fundamentally important aspect to the greatness or weakness of our nation and thus completly in the public interest. To that end government should only be involved in the protection of rights as relates to our schools and not the invented ones created by leftists of our time whose only real interest is their own power over all of us.

Leftists have hurt education and the very people they claim to be helping more than they have ever helped it. It took conservatives to bring us civil rights as the eftists democrats of the day were more involved in the KKK than they ever were in the rights or needs of minorities. yet they teach just the opposite in schools. The sick bastards only fulfilling what Michele Obama dangerously said the other day when sh actually said (to the NAACP) that we need “to change our history...” No code there...just a striaght up assault on truth for the sake of the lying left to walk away from their history and responsibility.


41 posted on 07/14/2010 10:53:09 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: ICE-FLYER
“However, by absence we are involved too as we empower bad leadership to take our non-involvement as approval for their despicable actions.” ( ICE-FLYER)
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The conservative “involvement” in education should be directed at bringing as much private competition to the system as possible, and in getting as many children out of the system as possible. Attempting reform government schooling is like trying to put out a raging forest fire with a water pistol. Or...As one witty Freeper said, “Like throwing a grape and hoping to hit Mars.”

Two strategies can be used. The first is shame!

( The following is my post from another thread:)

The only solution is start removing your own children. Government schools need two things: children and the money attached to that child. Remove the children! Drip, drip, drip, the money dries up!

By the way, it is time that we make parents feel uncomfortable about, and ashamed, that their children are using these godless government schools. ( **ALL** government schools in this nation are godless in their worldview.)Why on earth, or in heaven, would any parent allow their child to be taught to think godlessly??? Huh? Why are they **doing** this???.

And...We should do the same for any teacher agreeing to support this godless abomination and accepting a paycheck for doing it. If these teachers **really** loved these children they would be doing all they could to get their students out of these hellish government schools and into private schools that thoroughly integrated the word of God ( as practiced by the child's family) into the very fabric of every minute of the child's school day.

The second approach would be to set up conservative alternatives: ( Again, one of my posts from another thread.)

Wealthy conservatives should start education foundations. The conservative foundations would award grants to individual teachers. The teachers would open tuition-free “one room” schools in their homes. The foundations would certify the teachers, do periodic inspections, approve the curriculum, and test the students.

The foundations would also break the monopoly that government schools have on team sports by supporting community-wide teams and all the “rah-rah” that goes with it such as cheer leading). The foundations would also run community wide music and arts programs as well.

Can anyone **IMAGINE** the savings of not having to own or maintain buildings?

Of course, as taxpayers we should insist that the health and safety regulations on these one-room schools should not be any greater than those met by our currently run day care providers.

While I dislike the idea of giving any service away for free, it would be necessary in the beginning. Our government schools are charging the price of “free” at the door, and the conservatives schools would need to match the government price-controlled, cartel, monopoly price of “free”. Eventually, as government schools closed, due to competition from the conservative one-room schools, the foundations would expect the parents to gradually take on the full cost of educating their own child.

As for “free” education:

Look at the endowments our colleges and universities. Harvard has a 35 BILLION dollar endowment! Universities across the nation have endowments in the billions and multi-millions. If the government had **never** planted its big fat hairy foot in the free market of K-12 education, it is possible that today **all** of our nation's children would be enjoying private, tution-free, K-12 schooling funded through private endowments.

42 posted on 07/14/2010 11:28:50 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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