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An important article that underscores the need to get our legal immigration under control. In effect, we have an amnesty every ten years as a result of our LEGAL IMMIGRATION Policies.
1 posted on 07/14/2010 7:32:48 AM PDT by kabar
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in the past we have always had extensive programs to educate, Americanize and assimilate new immigrants. The difference today is that the people behind this are deliberately trying to Balkanize us.


2 posted on 07/14/2010 7:34:28 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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I don’t care what color they are as long as they are the best and brightest. If they come here to open businesses, (and have the funds) if they are educated, if they contribute, then they are welcome. If they need welfare, and education etc. then they should comprise only 5% of the immigrants.


3 posted on 07/14/2010 7:37:41 AM PDT by McGavin999 (I'm sorry, your race card is overdrawn and no further charges can be accepted)
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Granting amnesty in increments is not the solution, imho. If and when amnesty, in whatever form it comes and is passed, needs to come with a 5-10 year suspension of the the illegal immigrants/aliens voting rights since, in all truth, the major political incentive to granting amnesty in any form is the gaining of their votes. Suspending their voting rights for x-amount of time removes that political outcome and incentive.
4 posted on 07/14/2010 7:41:48 AM PDT by cranked
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To: kabar; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; FromLori; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
RE :”You see, a death by a thousand legal cuts is not actually my position. Rather, if you're the average conservative American, it's yours. And what I put forth wasn't actually a proposal. Rather, it was a reality. It's called legal immigration. Something often accompanying the disclaimer, “Look, I support legal immigration, but...” is “I realize most of the folks coming here are good, hardworking people...” Now, while I'd point out that it takes only 51 percent to qualify as “most,” this statement is correct in the following sense: Most of those arriving legally are, usingAnd the proof is in the pudding. Approximately 80 percent of new legal immigrants, once naturalized, vote as our culture-rending leftists do (for leftist Democrats). For a specific example, consider that first-time Hispanic voters cast ballots for Bill Clinton by a ratio of 15 to 1.moderns’ typical yardstick, good, hardworking people. ...And if we're going to support our current legal-immigration scheme, why get so worked up over illegal migration? We are already supporting a legal cultural death by a thousand cuts; we are already supporting the importation of nearly a million socialist-leaning voters every year. All amnesty does is expedite the process.

I tried to point this big problem out to Republicans many times but never got anywhere. This country had a massive legal immigration invasion under the Bush years (he said we needed all those workers for his growing economy) and most of them ended up voting democrat in 2008. Even now they are sympathetic to Obama and his ideas that he is doing the best anyone can and is disliked for being non-white. Our immigration system that puts relatives to the front of the line is bankrupting this country. As soon as they get in they get benefits and their kids get free college and learn to believe in government handouts. We should reform the system so those that can contribute are put at the front of the line.

9 posted on 07/14/2010 7:56:51 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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Let ‘em in ... let ‘em all in. BUT DON’T ALLOW THEM TO VOTE, EVER. Now, let’s see someone who is “for” illegal immigration swallow that one! This isn’t about illegals, its about votes ... lets prove it!


10 posted on 07/14/2010 7:57:36 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
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The single most effective remedy for illegal immigration is, in a word, DISINCENTIVE.

Clumsy word, but it sure works. If it isn’t worth the trouble, they won’t come.

Put a sign on your lawn saying “Free Food - Open House - Free Tutoring - We’ll Even Pay Your Doctor Bills - And More!” and see if you don’t attract a stampede.

When word gets around that the goodies are withdrawn, what happens? You can get the gate fixed and the front door rehung.

Not rocket science.


17 posted on 07/14/2010 8:13:03 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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Reids says there are no illegals working in Nevada

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2552378/posts
18 posted on 07/14/2010 8:14:42 AM PDT by Fred (Obama is as Obama Does)
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Reids says there are no illegals working in Nevada

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2552378/posts
22 posted on 07/14/2010 8:23:37 AM PDT by Fred (Obama is as Obama Does)
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NEVER!
No illegal should EVER be allowed citizenship.
EVER!


28 posted on 07/14/2010 8:37:55 AM PDT by Flintlock
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Excellent post. By concentrating almost entirely on illegal immigration we as a country have taken our eyes off the ball which has been rolling down the proverbial hill since Kennedy's immigration reform in the 60’s, that being legal immigration and the subsequent chain migration which follows it. The notion that we can assimilate this many people, many who have no intentions on assimilating in the first place, is preposterous. This is further compounded by the fact that the majority of immigrants, both legal and illegal, come from a third world nation that borders us to the south, making assimilation all the more difficult. It's not very hard at all to envision the American Southwest being majority Hispanic in a very short period of time. In my mind its not a question about race its more of a question of culture. You have by and large a vast majority of immigrants coming from a culture which in many respects is different from our own with little desire to assimilate. What we need to do is to take a step back, look at the policies that are currently in effect and decide what changes need to be made for the good of the country, not the good of the next politician who needs their votes.
29 posted on 07/14/2010 8:39:21 AM PDT by RU88 (Bow to no man)
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How about this...
1. Secure the border. Provide military to guard it.
2. Tell all illegals to go to a post office and sign the book, get their worker ID and be productive. No citizenship. If they want citizenship, get to the end of the line.
Anyone who doesn’t sign up, immediate deport/no return ever.
Commit a felony, immediate deport/no return ever.
Cross illegally, immediate deport/no return ever.
Gang banger, immediate deport/no return ever.
Then we can debate on the number allowed in per year.


35 posted on 07/14/2010 9:10:49 AM PDT by dockkiller (COME AND TAKE IT.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


36 posted on 07/14/2010 9:28:18 AM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from my front porch - and Mexico from the back.)
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Excellent article. We need a fence and visa reform to stop illegal immigration. But legal immigration has to be made skills based and reduced. For example, most of the legal Mexican immigrants are as ill educated and non-English speaking as the illegal ones.

We get 400,000 legal immigrants from Mexico each year which is insane. Most of them are poor and will never advance, nor will their offspring


44 posted on 07/14/2010 10:17:03 AM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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Have at it:

Know-Nothing Party Platform (1856)

There is nothing new under the sun.

52 posted on 07/14/2010 1:13:10 PM PDT by logician2u
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