Tueller never suggested that his work was a "rule", nor did he ever say that one is automatically justified in shooting someone holding a knife when they are standing 21 feet.
That is indeed correct. The problem is that most cops who read Tueller nonetheless treat it that way, yourself included in your earlier post where you cited it to justify an absurdly paranoid prioritizing of "officer safety" at the expense of the safety of others. Thank you for illustrating my point though.
Law enforcement certification doesn't come from "ITT Tech" and the trend is to require a college degree for law enforcement work
No. Those ITT Tech-style internet schools offer "criminal justice" programs that are tailored to cops who need a couple hours of college credit for promotion. As to the requirement of a college degree, simply look at the hiring websites of just about any given random police department in the United States. Standard entry level qualifications to become a cop:
- High school diploma or GED
- Have no felony convictions
- Minimum age somewhere in the 18-21 range
- Valid driver's license
- Be able to pass a VERY minimal physical fitness test
- Affirmative Action bonus points for being a minority or other protected class
Now it is true that promotions are usually contingent upon completing some college credits, and that is where ITT Tech comes into play. But an entry level cop is no more qualified than an entry level burger flipper.
So now you are a liar as well? I merely used the Tueller drill to illustrate reaction times. I never said it was a hard and fast rule. You merely invented that straw man because you are incapable of engaging in not fallacious reasoning.
No. Those ITT Tech-style internet schools offer "criminal justice" programs that are tailored to cops who need a couple hours of college credit for promotion. As to the requirement of a college degree, simply look at the hiring websites of just about any given random police department in the United States. Standard entry level qualifications to become a cop: - High school diploma or GED - Have no felony convictions - Minimum age somewhere in the 18-21 range - Valid driver's license - Be able to pass a VERY minimal physical fitness test - Affirmative Action bonus points for being a minority or other protected class. Now it is true that promotions are usually contingent upon completing some college credits, and that is where ITT Tech comes into play. But an entry level cop is no more qualified than an entry level burger flipper.
Really? So Police do not have their own State Mandated Academy Training? Let me guess, that doesn't could as "education" right? I suppose you would apply the same rule to the military, since military training doesn't count as an education either? Right?
Not to mention, as I stated, the trend is to require a four year degree for entry level law enforcement work.
http://www.lakewood.org/index.cfm?&include=/PD/employment.cfm
http://naperville.il.us/npdcareers.aspx
http://www.mcso.us/public/hr_faq.htm
http://www.wheaton.il.us/departments/police/detail.aspx?id=1614
Not really true. The minimum requirements are obviously low. But meeting those requirements and being selected by whatever method they use to select among the candidates only gets you to whatever the police academy is called in that state. They have to graduate from the academy before they end up on the street with a badge and a gun.
Some police forces do require college degrees for new officers or a number of years experience for those transferring in from other forces, but I believe that is the exception rather than the rule.
Yes, those are the minimum requirements to apply. The majority of depts will use a college degree as a factor during the hiring process. I know a lot of LEOs and none of them hold anything less then a Bachelor’s degree. I know LEOs of all ranks, from patrolman, to D/SGT, to CPT, to Police Chief and Sheriff. The officers I know that hire, will not hire anybody without the minimum of an Associate’s degree. If they don’t get any applicants that hold a degree, they will re-open the posting.