This is what state police look like now.
Pick up the witness report at 1:40:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2551350/posts
Posted on 07/12/2010 1:26:25 PM PDT by conimbricenses
The man shot by police outside a Summerlin Costco store on Saturday was a graduate of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point with a master's degree from Duke University, friends said.
Army veteran Erik Scott, 39, was at the store near Charleston Boulevard and the Las Vegas Beltway with his girlfriend before three officers fatally shot him in a confrontation.
(Excerpt) Read more at lvrj.com ...
Anyone who scares the children(a liberal) should expect a confrontation with a LEO.This almost sounds like a professional hit.
Off duty at a social gathering? To my knowledge, they fall under the concealed carry laws here in PA just like the rest of us.
I seriously doubt that a LEO is required to apply for a CCW.
Regardless, they have to conceal.
And it's understandable. Despite my posts so far on this thread, I can understand why cops have to be that way on a certain level. Perfectly easy-going cops get shot in cold blood by some very bad guys out on the streets. The truth is that in some areas -- probably more places than we care to admit -- these guys lay their lives on the line for me, for you, for yours and mine.
It's why bad cops are worse than criminals. They do untold damage.
It is not concealed carry. It is their required OFF-DUTY WEAPON.
If this IS what happened, then every policeman who shot should resign with a heavy heart, find a new line of work, and pray a lot.
Honor is important.
Interestingly enough there are the “bad parts of [some] town[s]” that you hear about cops not going at all.
How does that figure into the “they put their lives on the line” viewpoint? {Or the “police will do what’s right” viewpoint for that matter.}
I agree with most of what you posted there. However my specific post to which you are responding is regarding your position on accidental exposure of your weapon when you have a permit.
Your response reminded me of the folks on the “red light camera” threads that say, “Well, if you didn’t break the law, you wouldn’t have to worry about red light cameras.” It is about real world scenarios - Human beings - not the “machine” response.
Yes, tac squad.
A lot of people though it was overkill as the response to a handicapped vet with a squirrel rifle, especially since they showed up after he was killed.
I really feel for his girlfriend and family. This thing is an amazing tragedy. It’s interesting that I don’t have this take on it regarding the people shot in the “projects”, but I think it is partly because the situation is very different. Even if this guy was a black vet with the exact same credentials I would feel the same way about this.
It is not about race, but it IS about culture.
I’m a computer programmer and I am QUITE distrustful of red-light cameras... many companies get a share of the ticket-monies; that in itself is motivation to have ‘slightly inaccurate’ timing or speed-computation functions.
Furthermore, the legal right to face your accuser (and take it to court) seems to be... er, rather anemic in this case and I can see it as motivation for more such anemia.
The "police will do what's right" viewpoint is far from the way I view cops. Honorable men and women who are cops will do right. Cowards and weirdos who are cops will do wrong, and in my opinion, are worse than criminals.
“Yes, tac squad.”
They don’t look very tactful to me. /h
there was an incident in my neighborhood with the LA county sherriffs that changed my perspective on metro policing ROE's.
a random gang shooting happened two streets away that had a mother and kids pinned down and called 911 from a closet, bullets had come in to her house from the front yard where they killed a guy as the kids played out front and they ran in, the cops massed troops for 45 minutes while the mother and kids waited in the closet, 911 told the mother to go out and see if it was safe for the officers to come in ( I am not kidding)but she refused ....at the special community neighborhood watch meeting held on the incident, the mother gave her testimony in tears asking why, other witnesses confirmed her testimony, and the watch commander replied that " my primary goal is the protection of my officers, our duty is to enforce the law first and foremost. Our duty is not protection of the public, it is to enforce the law" ...at which point I walked out of the meeting with a very loud parting comment of "COWARDS !" as I walked past the line of officers whos faces turned red
Yepper, and they finally got to suit up! Not much action tho, since the lone hunter and veteran had already been killed.
This is what state police look like now.
Pick up the witness report at 1:40:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2551350/posts
“Also proof that when it comes to the 2nd amendment, the police are NOT your friend.”
Raise your hands high, drop to your knees, announce you have a concealed carry permit, and you are carrying.
Erik may have been caught off guard, and in the confusion, may have not responded properly. But, he should have been alerted, especially after being confronted by the store clerk expressing that weapons were not allowed in the store.
We need to see those store cams. Then, all those people alerted, and not a single cell phone vid?
>...at which point I walked out of the meeting with a very loud parting comment of “COWARDS !” as I walked past the line of officers whos faces turned red
Thank you!
It’s good to hear someone calling the authorities on their actions.
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