[Republic of Texas]

I tend to agree. Men are more like conservatives, we just want to be left alone. I would have given my life for my ex, as long as I thought she would do the same for me, and because of that, I gave up some control of my life to her. I thought the trade off would be a lifelong commitment. Had she divorced me before our son was born, I'd have much less anger, but she wanted a child. As soon as she got one, she quit. She screwed over a small child for the rest of his life so she could have the prize she wanted, and lied every step of the way.

I don't know if she planned it that way, but I do know that she violated every oath she ever made to me or God. I see this with the women I work with as well. They are ruled by their feelings and make business decisions based on how they feel that moment.

I think women are essential for a complete life, and the positive attributes they add to this world is incalculable. I just won't ever believe one completely again. Even if they believe they are being honest at the time, their feelings will change and so will their truth. The can't help or avoid that.

[RobRoy]

Interesting thing is that both our ex’s probably think they were absolutely justified. Reminds me of the prison scene in Chicago where the one woman in for murdering her husband said he wouldn’t stop snapping his gum and “you’d have done the same” had it been you instead of her.

All people justify their actions, even when committing suicide or murder.