Posted on 07/11/2010 3:59:49 PM PDT by TaraP
It's interesting to try to divine the chicken-and-egg of Mel Gibson's firing by WME last week: Was it his (first-alleged, now aurally proved) misogynistic and racist comments that enabled the agency to part ways with him, or was it the death of longtime agent Ed Limato that did the trick?
Earlier today the news surfaced that William Morris Endeavor had split with Gibson last week-- as Limato lay seriously ill, and just several days after Radar Online broke the news that Gibson had verbally abused his girlfriend Oksana Grigorieva by using the N-word. (The reports were just that until today, when audio of the Gibson incident was released on Radar.)
There's of course a third variable in all this -- the fact that Gibson just wasn't much of a bankable star anymore anyway.
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No, it's not futility. Gibson's speech is central to subject of this thread.
*correction*
No, it’s not futility. Gibson’s speech is central to the subject of this thread.
No one raped her. I believe he was pointing out what he thought would happen to her if she went out dresses the way she was dressed.
Mel has been losing it for some time now. I know of his alcoholism; I don’t know about a mental illness. It makes me sad to see him like this.
What good will "caring" do? Will "caring" fix Mel's problem?
Wouldn't it be better to care about someone who has the slightest notion that you exist?
Are you saying Mel Gibson is a racist jerk, because he said the N-Word? or is it something that he did...I will tell you, everyone I have ever known at some point in there life as said the N-word and I hardly call them racists.
As many people has said the N-Word is = to the amount of people who have said the F-Word.
Mel Gibson might have a potty mouth, but does that make him a racist? It might make him a candidate for Anger Management classes.
“the futility of trying to change someone else’s mind in an online discussion.”
Rational people change their mind due to discussion. It happens to me, and I know I have sometimes changed other people’s mind with good arguments.
What seems to have been largely ignored in this discussion is that under California law a crime was committed when Mel Gibson was taped, and a court order was violated when the tape was made public. The lawbreakers should be prosecuted, as well as Gibson himself if he committed an unjustified domestic assault. His language in the tape, however politically incorrect, was not illegal. All the previous discussion about racism and slavery is rather pointless, because the relevant issues in this matter are the right to privacy, political correctness, and domestic violence.
I recall that Richard Nixon often privately referred to Henry Kissinger as ‘my Jew boy’ and with the ‘k’ word (the Jewish equivalent to the “n” word), while Kissinger privately referred to Nixon as ‘that madman,’ ‘our drunken friend’ and ‘the meatball mind’ People under stress says things in private that they don’t intend to be made public. Under California law even Mel Gibson was entitled to do that.
I just think these words labeled on most everyone now, especially *Conservatives like:
1. You are a Homophobe
2. You are a racist
3. You are a Bible Thumper
4. You are a Bigot
5. You are a Anti-Semite
Is a tired Old broken record, because these labels are used as fear tactics, so the other person cowars trying to defend themselves by explaining away...
People that are TRUE Bigots, Racists, Anti-Semites have no fear in showing their colors....
I know that I am none of those things, so when I am called
derogatory labels... (Mainly a homophobe)I just say Whoop Di Do....
Yes it is, but that's not what I was speaking of at the time.
I have changed my position in online discussions on occasion, and have persuaded a few people that I was correct and they were wrong. That having been said, I would estimate that for every online conversation which ends in such a manner, there are (literally) thousands which do not.
Quite often it depends on if one is debating provable fact or opinion.
I wish that were the case, but all too often it seems to make little difference.
I'm calling it quits for tonight.
Have a good one.
I as well. Night.
Ever read 1984?
Hey! I resemble that remark!
No, a valid point would be true, factual, not just a belief.
Heh, not even sure what I said for that response... Way too many responses to follow...sorry. I do like your response to whatever I said though...heh.
I will still watch any worthy movies he creates. He is no worse than any of the other banksters, politicans, entertainment and sports evil weevils our society adores. His mistake was acting like a Catholic and family man while he was on the wagon - that is why they really hate him.
I hope he gets into treatment for whatever is ailing him again...I suspect it is booze and it goes badly for his temperment and judgement.
Wow. Gibson just keeps shooting himself in the foot. It reminds me of those athletes that just can’t stop taking drugs.
Well, yes there was that too.
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