RE: The amnesty types like to create the distinction between “criminal illegal aliens” [an estimated 2 million] and “lawful illegal aliens.” They draw this distinction so they can give the 10 to 20 million illegal aliens amnesty, i.e., allow them to stay and work here.
AHA, that’s where I TOTALLY AGREE with you. I wish people would be as thoughtful as you in this thread ( unfortunately, many are not... they rant on and on and put motives into me and the others as if they could read their minds ). Mentioning things like La Raza and Reconquista ( as it these Pastors support these crazy groups ) is tarring and feathering people without trying to understand what they really want.
You post is really the crux of the matter. I would tell these pastors to revisit STEP 3 of their declaration because they seem to want to nuance criminal and non-criminal illegals in this country.
The fact is both are breaking the law and need to be deported.
Having said that, I am still in favor of an orderly, controlled temporary worker program much like they have in countries like Singapore and Hongkong.
We actually already have guest worker programs that bring in hundreds of thousands of temporary workers every year. Here is a list of various temporary worker visas
The larger question is how many temporary workers do we need? We have an abundance of unskilled labor that grows every year due to our legal immigration policies that bring in large amounts of unskilled, uneducated, and untrained workers who become a burden to our society. 53% of immigrant headed households are on welfare. Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation work, Importing Poverty: Immigration and Poverty in the United States: A Book of Charts, remains the seminal work on the subject.
Temporary workers don't go home. Singapore has been successful because they apply draconian laws to enforce their policy. Workers cannot switch jobs, they must leave within 7 days if they lose their jobs, they can't marry natives, and they face deportation or mandatory abortions if they get pregnant. Singapore is an authoritarian society. Such rules would never survive in the US.
Milton Friedman said, “You cannot simultaneously have free immigration and a welfare state.” We have both.
“You post is really the crux of the matter. I would tell these pastors to revisit STEP 3 of their declaration because they seem to want to nuance criminal and non-criminal illegals in this country.The fact is both are breaking the law and need to be deported.Having said that, I am still in favor of an orderly, controlled temporary worker..”
None of the steps call for those breaking the law (here illegally) to be deported, even nuanced as you say. Also, most of those churches are notably liberal and sympathetic to illegals.
You failed to respond to my post giving point by point critique of their proposal. Do you agree or disagree?
Finally, your remarks in #110 are correct. I apologize.