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Why both Paul Krugman of Princeton and Brian Wesbury of Forbes are wrong on the economy
Marta on the Markets ^ | 07/08/2010 | TJ Marta

Posted on 07/08/2010 7:17:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Recently, Paul Krugman and Brian Wesbury have both regaled us with their views of the world. Krugman urges policymakers to double down on an obviously failed Keynesian reaction to the fiscal/financial/economic crisis by throwing the "kitchen sink" at the problem. In stark contrast, Wesbury adopts a "what, me worry?" stance, arguing that the current situation bears no resemblance to 1932 and is actually pretty darn good.

To Krugman, I'd admonish , "hey man, the game's over. You lost. Give it up." Keynesian fiscal policy, such as recent government spending has been labeled, has failed as miserably this time as it did in the 1930's. The temporary stimuli from tax rebates, cash for clunkers, cash for appliances and homebuyers' rebates have proven just that - temporary.

As former-secretary of Labor Robert Reich recently lamented, "The economy is still in the gravitational pull of the Great Recession. All the booster rockets for getting us beyond it are failing." Unfortunately, the booster rockets of Keynesian always eventually fail, as the government always reaches a limit on how much of the private citizens' wealth it can spend.

Furthermore, the Keynesian booster rockets always fail to ignite the engines of private entrepreneurialism, precisely because they suck the oxygen, or capital, necessary for those engines to ignite. Such is the plight of Amity Shlaes' "forgotten man."

Finally, Krugman fails to consider the reality that barring Fed buying of US Treasuries, as during WWII, or confiscatory policies mandating that 401k monies be invested in US Treasuries, we have very little room to issue additional debt. The key legacies of the New Deal and the Great Society, along with reckless Congressional spending, have saddled the US with a fiscal trajectory that the CBO admits is already "unsustainable".

To Wesbury, I'd concede only that the current situation is not like 1932, but I'd quickly add that we're certainly in a situation, a Great Deleveraging, akin to the 1930's. Beyond that, I'd suggest that he leave his office and talk to some of the 20+% unemployment US workers (see http://www.shadowstats.com/). Yes 20+%. During the 1990's, the definition of unemployed was altered to exclude those out of work over a year. Perhaps that was a reasonable move during reasonably healthy economic times, but during this period of pernicious, structural unemployment, it woefully understates the trouble a significant portion of American citizens are in. Any robustness in data derives from the false signals provided by government "booster rockets", which we argued above are temporary and vain.

A look at the uncertainty facing business due to government intrusion, the fiscal cliff confronting state and local governments, and the leading indicators index, which includes the collapsing equity market and bull flattening yield curve, suggests anything but a rosy picture for the economy.

If forced to pick one year in the 1930's that we might most closely compare the present situation, I'd pick 1936 or 1937. That was the period when FDR finally overreached and the public began to distrust the New Deal. Various developments during that period also ring eerily familiar. Nationalized healthcare was talked about. Taxes went up. The federal government, realizing the limits of its spending capacity, cut back on stimulus. And the Fed, spooked by the specter of inflation, increased the reserve requirements for banks. Not surprisingly, the economy tanked and the stock market collapsed - again.

Do I have a policy alternative I could suggest that would undo the damage? In a word, no. Have you ever tried to console someone riding the "porcelain bus" after a long, drunken bout? There's really nothing to offer. US policymakers have spent the last 70 years squandering the benefits reaped by the industrial revolution and the successful prosecution of WWII, which left the US as the only undamaged major power. There is a heavy price to pay for such neglect. The sins of the father are visited upon the children. About the only thing policymakers can do is responsibly enact laws that set the stage and provide the environment for the free society unfettered by central government planning that the founding fathers envisioned.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brianwesbury; paulkrugman

1 posted on 07/08/2010 7:17:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama = 20+% unemployment

Bush = 4 to 6% unemployment


2 posted on 07/08/2010 7:20:43 AM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: SeekAndFind

Any farmer knows that:
It doesn’t do any good to prime the pump
if the water level is lower than the intake.


3 posted on 07/08/2010 7:22:33 AM PDT by updatedscreenname
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To: Frantzie

Obama’s argument is that this recession STARTED in Bush’ last year. He only INHERITED it.

Therefore, had Bush still been President, the unemployment would have been WORSE had it not been for our present POTUS’ enlightened leadership.

Just giving a summary of what he has been saying these past few months.


4 posted on 07/08/2010 7:25:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Frantzie

You need to stay away from that comparison, it is as bad as the blame jorge by the obamma’s. If jorge had had a third term, we probably would still be at the current level, he did sign the bailout and the Government motors stealing. So given jorges track record, I don’t think he would have done a 180 degree turn and we would have already had amnesty.


5 posted on 07/08/2010 7:26:10 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

Bush didn’t authorize or even consider the GM takeover - that was Obama, through and through. And it was an illegal use of TARP funds on top of it, which were to be used as loans for financial institutions - no manufacturing firms - only.


6 posted on 07/08/2010 7:46:59 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: SeekAndFind
You lost. Give it up." Keynesian fiscal policy, such as recent government spending has been labeled, has failed...

F. A. Hayek rules!!!! Keynes' drools.

7 posted on 07/08/2010 7:54:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (Bull Conner is a black man - goes by "Eric Holder". Black Panther voter intimidation gets a pass...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Just giving a summary of what he has been saying these past few months.

I'm suprized the Goof in Chief doesn't just blame George Washington!

8 posted on 07/08/2010 8:10:24 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Just giving a summary of what he has been saying these past few months.

I'm surprised the Goof in Chief doesn't just blame George Washington!

9 posted on 07/08/2010 8:10:36 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: org.whodat

Bush largely s*cked but compared to this he was heaven.

If you want to blame a Repub it is MCCain-Feingold that gave the Dems control, which gave Fannie & Freddie filled with O operatives to give loans to everyone, Sandlers, Franklin Raines, Stan O’Neil, ACORN, SEIU and all the hedge fund short buddies and operatives at the CBOE, Merc and other exchanges in Chicago. Too much to go into here.

Bush and the Repubs got blindsided. Chris Cox at SEC had no clue. The late summer suprise in 2008 was planned.


10 posted on 07/08/2010 8:15:09 AM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: April Lexington

“I’m surprised the Goof in Chief doesn’t just blame George Washington!”

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He certainly has. Washington was white after all.

Let’s be blunt: A fundamental pillar of Zero’s Communist manifesto is getting “even” with the European-Americans who built the United States, most specifically, the white Christian male.


11 posted on 07/08/2010 8:17:24 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: EyeGuy
Let’s be blunt: A fundamental pillar of Zero’s Communist manifesto is getting “even” with the European-Americans who built the United States, most specifically, the white Christian male.

So true. Look at his stunning and insulting indifference to Great Britain. Old Kenyan wounds and US slavery to boot. This guy just don't like white people...

12 posted on 07/08/2010 8:28:13 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Frantzie


Roland Arnall - Bush Ambassador to the Netherlands, and Godfather of Subprime.

Best RINOs and Donkeys Money can Buy

13 posted on 07/08/2010 8:29:09 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: April Lexington

>>This guy just don’t like white people...

Simple observation of Rahm Emmanuel and ZBigniew Brzezinski’s skin tone should make it self-evident that it would be wise to sniff the cheese more thoroughly before jumping into the Race-baited Rat’s trap.


14 posted on 07/08/2010 8:38:54 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill

The skin tone of the puppet masters is irrelevant. The Racist, in this instance, is the puppet... And, friend, Jews share some of the same issues regarding White Christian Europeans who seem to be the target here...


15 posted on 07/08/2010 8:42:38 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington
Whatever the skin tone - I think I'll decline being Shocked and Awed by religionist puppet shows today, thanks.

Better to do the American thing, instead:



"I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY
TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"
--Thomas Jefferson


"special relationship" with the British my arse, jorge.
16 posted on 07/08/2010 8:52:49 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: SeekAndFind
>>Paul Krugman of Princeton and Brian Wesbury of Forbes
>>are wrong on the economy


What about Thomas Jefferson?


"COMMERCE BETWEEN MASTER AND SLAVE IS DESPOTISM"
--(also) Thomas Jefferson
Still self-evidently true?

When equitable commerce is perverted by merchants using dishonest scales.... A$$paper happens.

A Republic is a system, of governance characterized by the Rule of Law; when the Law fails, the Republic fails.

WHERE'S LEO?
17 posted on 07/08/2010 9:10:14 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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