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American Decline Is a State of Mind
National Review ^ | 7/8/2010 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 07/08/2010 5:28:49 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross

We are hearing all sorts of reasons why the United States is doomed to decline.

After all, America is piling up deficits at a record rate of about $1.5 trillion a year while other countries are slashing their spending. The national debt cascades over $13 trillion and is on track to reach $20 trillion within a decade.

The current recession is heading into its third year. Unemployment still hovers at nearly 10 percent.

Much of the country thinks the war in Afghanistan is as good as lost. There are more than 80,000 American troops deployed there, along with nearly 50,000 allied soldiers — facing fewer than 10,000 Taliban insurgents.

The largest oil spill in American history has been gushing up from the Gulf for nearly 80 days, with vague promises that it could be plugged in another month or so.

Between 11 million and 20 million illegal aliens currently reside in the United States. And we cannot seem to stop another half million from crossing illegally into America each year.

Politically, the fickle electorate was furious at Wall Street for the 2008 meltdown. But it is now angrier at a government that threatens to take over more private enterprise. In 2006, voters renounced congressional Republicans; in November 2010, even angrier voters will probably be more unforgiving of the once-dominant Democrats.

George W. Bush left office with dismal poll numbers. Yet Barack Obama, who campaigned on the theme that he would serve as a reset button for the prior administration, and who enjoyed an approval rate of nearly 70 percent at inauguration, has seen his own ratings dive below 50 percent in just 18 months.

No wonder this dismal news — coupled with constant predictions of a rising, all-powerful China and the emergence of new, upcoming regional powers like Turkey, Brazil, and India — prompts nonstop gloom about inevitable American decay.

Even Obama, at times, seems to envision a multipolar world in which the United States no longer is “exceptional” in the manner of the last 70 years.

In the midst of our current malaise, we feel overwhelmed by largely short-term problems and our current inability to address them — without appreciating our long-term strengths and present bounty, or learning from past recoveries.

We are soon to revert to the Clinton income-tax rates last used in 2000, when we ran budget surpluses. If likewise we were to cut the budget, or just hold federal spending to the rate of inflation, America would soon run surpluses as it did a decade ago. For all our problems, the United States is still the largest economy in the world, its 300 million residents producing more goods and services than the more than 1 billion in either China or India.

The U.S. military defeated both Saddam Hussein and the Islamic insurgency that followed him in Iraq, while fostering consensual government. With the same determination, there is no reason why it cannot do the same in Afghanistan. Certainly neither enemy is comparable to Nazi Germany or imperial Japan, which a much poorer America helped to defeat simultaneously within four years of engagement.

Nearly 70 years ago, a far less scientifically sophisticated country developed the atomic bomb in three years. It could likewise plug a leaking oil well in three months.

If the United States chose to close its southern border — by finishing the fence, fining all employers of illegal aliens, and increasing patrols — illegal entry from the south would cease almost at once. The pool of resident illegal aliens would shrink through assimilation, intermarriage, and voluntary repatriation while Congress kept haggling over the particulars of comprehensive reform.

Our supposedly intractable problems are hardly insurmountable. Ascendant China and India have much less freedom and far greater environmental problems, political turmoil, and class disparity. Europe is not as productive as America and is shrinking in population, not growing as we are.

In the bleak 1930s, we were told that German discipline and order were the answer; during the depressing stagflation of the 1970s, Japan, Inc. was supposed to be the way of the future. Then a resurgence of American confidence and renewed faith in our exceptional system dispelled all such nonsense.

The United States still remains the most racially diverse, stable, free, productive, and militarily strong country in the world. Its current crises are largely the political and cultural creations of the most affluent and leisured generation in civilization’s history — not due to longstanding civil unrest, structural weakness, or a sudden shortage of natural resources.

America may well soon decline and become no different from any other nation. But such a depressing future would largely be our generation’s own free choice; it is not a historical inevitability.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; american; decline; obama; vdh
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To: itsahoot
-- I have felt since the last campaign was on its final days, that this would be the last election that our vote really mattered, now I even doubt whether it did last time. --

I think the results make a short term difference, on the order of 10 years or so. It's wrong to say the results make no difference, in that individuals winners and losers are determined (other than the candidates) by the outcome. But the general direction of society? That seems to be a one-way ratchet!

It could be otherwise, and I think the turning point came with radio. Maybe a coincidence, maybe not. Money policy was shoved off to Federal Reserve, lots of big changes under Wilson. Critical thought isn't needed when the news reports are uniform.

81 posted on 07/08/2010 10:23:35 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: itsahoot

Well, I guess I’m the first fundamentalist Christian libertarian you’ve met. I go to an unaffiliated fundamentalist Baptist church.

Really, I’m too tired to say more.


82 posted on 07/08/2010 10:32:49 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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To: wintertime
We, as conservatives, must work tirelessly to shut down the government schools.

Absolutely. Raze them.

83 posted on 07/08/2010 10:34:09 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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To: Cboldt

“We each account for ourselves, as individuals.”

A mighty good thing to remember. This individual will be very afraid on that day.


84 posted on 07/08/2010 11:05:30 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("Ye shall know them by their fruits." (Matthew 7:16))
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To: Servant of the Cross
What my future husband fails to include in his equation is that during other times of hardship and war we actually had a government that was dedicated to pulling us thru and inspiring us back to greatness.

Today, we have a government that hates this country, its people and is determined to take us down and keep us down.

Our only hope is for the politically ignorant, Paris Hilton generation to put down the iPhones, log off Face Book, wake up, grow up and help us take back the country.

85 posted on 07/08/2010 1:25:31 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Remember that not only did William Wallace scream “FREEDOM!!!”, he also showed the enemy his butt. The secret weapon. (sigh)


86 posted on 07/08/2010 1:30:42 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Thanks for the ping. Don't let all the dismal and pessimistic comments on the thread get to you.

The Elite Turn Against Obama

GALLUP : Obama Job Approval Rating Down to 38% Among Independents

87 posted on 07/08/2010 1:54:16 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Thanks, nice of you to say so. I’m not down, only a little surprised by the pessimism. I still agree with VDH.


88 posted on 07/08/2010 5:55:00 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: MichiganConservative
Well, I guess I’m the first fundamentalist Christian libertarian you’ve met

You can be one or the other, but you can't be both. The Bible would not let you be tolerant of the deviant behavior that Libertarians ignore, or endorse. I have been a Baptist for over 60 years.

89 posted on 07/08/2010 9:26:01 PM PDT by itsahoot
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To: MichiganConservative; mad_as_he$$; Cboldt

Think of it this way.

The marxist tyrants have not reached their end game for our country, not by a long shot. And getting there from here is not a free ride for them. In order to reach it, they have a lot of work to do.

One of the major obstacles facing them is the greatest obstacle that has faced any political leader since the beginning of history—public sentiment. Otherwise known as the will of the people. Yes, many are complacent. But the many have always been led by the few.

The marxists know their major obstacle is the need to get conservatives to believe exactly what you’re selling in this thread.


90 posted on 07/09/2010 4:17:58 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("Ye shall know them by their fruits." (Matthew 7:16))
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To: reasonisfaith
I am a systems guy. I study systems and find their weaknesses and strengths and correct or modify the issues based upon severity of items that have a negative impact on the system and the associated performance. When 50% of the population are looters AND the structure of the country has been fundamentally so that the Federal government runs all aspects the system is damaged beyond repair.

What people like you fail to understand is that the socialist do not play by the rules and never will. I see lots of “we take the high road” crap here on FR. This is a life or death knife fight while we sit around and count on the a big Rep win in the next election. Leaving things to the looters at the voting booth is sure disaster. 85% of Jews supported 0, 78% of women, 82% Hispanic and 95% Black. White guys do not have an impact on the election. Winning large amounts of support away from any one of those groups for the Reps is impossible. The idiotic Reps have so damaged the brand it is fatally broken which leads to independent action which leads to Dem wins. Even if Reps win 0 care will not be repealed and the USSC will be stacked. I am all for fighting a winnable fight by the rules. This is not a winnable fight playing by the rules.

91 posted on 07/09/2010 5:24:52 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Sometimes you have to go to dark places to get to the light....)
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To: mad_as_he$$

The rest of the Accident seemed to skip a beat.

Ginger flipped paint blinked by moons.

Run four between the water.


92 posted on 07/09/2010 9:01:29 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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