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To: muawiyah
My problem is I just do not know what our war aim is. The Obama administration has sent out spokesmen who say that the object is to set up a government which will not tolerate terrorist operations within the country which might threaten America.

That sounds fine. But it is well for us to remember that required only 19 terrorists and various support personnel to commit the atrocities of 9/11 and kill nearly 3000 Americans and residents of our country. I do not understand the connection between a roughhewn camp somewhere in Afghanistan and Saudi terrorists boarding American airplanes with box cutters. I do not understand how standing up a government in Afghanistan which is intolerant of terrorists prevents another 19 Saudis and terrorists from other nations attacking America in some similar fashion.

If we think that we can stand up such a government within the year deadline set down by the Obama administration, we are simply deluding ourselves. It is extreme folly to rely at all on the Karzai regime which is thoroughly corrupt and even now cutting deals with the Taliban about how to slice the pie after America departs.

It is inconceivable that America can occupy every square meter of Muslim territory from the Atlantic shores of Morocco to the mountain border between Pakistan and China. We simply cannot win the war on terrorism by occupying every Muslim nation. Afghanistan was not the only nexus of the 9/11 attack. As stated above, some of the terrorists came from Saudi Arabia, others from elsewhere. There is no reason why another attack cannot be mounted from the Sudan or from some barrio in Cairo.

What are we doing in Afghanistan at the cost of, what, $1 billion a day? What are we gaining? What is the endgame? Are we setting ourselves up to crash with our ally? What does standing up a 21st-century government in eighth century Afghanistan have to do with fighting a 21st-century war against terrorism? Can we afford any of this?

Can we afford to fight a war of revenge? We've been at it now for eight years, the longest war in American history and we fought ourselves into a place where we have rules of engagement which would satisfy Emily Post. Are we trying to avenge 9/11 or are we trying to change hearts and minds? How many lives should we sacrifice for revenge? How may lives to make the Afghans amenable to a corrupt Karzai government as opposed to a theocratic and fascist Taliban government? How many lives are being wasted in a war that does not make us safer?


10 posted on 07/07/2010 10:00:48 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
The AlQaida ground support team that provided logistics and attack day ground guidance for the planes that took off out of Dulles lived close by. They used something like 60 taxicabs. Must have been over 200 of them living nearby.

On 911 they got out of here, did their thing on I-95, and were gone ~ or were they.

That part of the operation was just the spearpoint. Several thousand other AlQaida members and supporters were working up and down I95 between Boston and Boca Raton doing a variety of other things for at least 3 years!

Have they caught all those terrorists yet?

11 posted on 07/07/2010 10:10:17 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: nathanbedford

Excellent post. What are we gaining, besides a greater federal deficit? At a minimum, it seems to be a terrible allocation of resources.


12 posted on 07/07/2010 10:13:00 AM PDT by MBB1984
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