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To: Honorary Serb
As I said in an earlier post, there are Hawaiian news articles that have been posted that call him foreign born.

Has it occurred to you that the original AP article read the same and it was altered? Yes. It's been done. There are screen shots of "before and after" articles.

And if you know Snopes isn't reliable, why post it. You might as well post propaganda directly from the WH.

32 posted on 07/07/2010 8:52:46 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I was very much around, alive, and alert in 2004, as I am to this day.

I saw obama’s famous speech at the Democrat Convention in 2004. I remember all the enthusiasm for obama as “the first black President” in 2004, whipped up by the press, many bigwigs in the Democrat party, and what passes for the intelligentsia. This is on the basis of that one speech, when obama was a lowly Illinois state senator with a very slim record of anything.

I remember people in our state (which is far away from Illinois) with “obama for Senate” bumper stickers on their cars in 2004. And I remember all the talk locally supporting obama as a Presidential candidate.

If it had been common knowledge in 2004 that obama had been born outside the United States, there would have been the degree of enthusiasm among Democrats for obama as President that one saw in some circles for Schwarzenegger as President—”it would be great, but he’s not eligible”. And opponents of an obama Presidency would have pointed out that he was ineligible, too.

Since no one said that about obama in 2004, it must not have been common knowledge that he was foreign-born. On the contrary, it was universally believed that obama had been born in the United States. (That is not to say that obama may be foreign-born, and that that fact had been covered up a long time before 2004, however.)


44 posted on 07/07/2010 12:41:09 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: DJ MacWoW; BuckeyeTexan
Has it occurred to you that the original AP article read the same and it was altered?

It occurred to me. But which scenario sounds more probable?

1) A 2004 Associated Press release referred to Obama as "Kenyan-born" in its opening. Multiple newspapers around the world ran versions of the AP article. Years later, the Associated Press decided to participate in a cover-up, and deleted the reference not only from its own archives, but also from Lexis and from every other newspaper archive in the world. (That includes scrubbing digital, microfiche, and physical records.) However, the conspiracy slipped up, and failed to remove the reference in, coincidentally, a single Kenyan newspaper.

or:

2) The Kenyan newspaper added the reference, and made a mistake.

Lessee...massive and sweeping conspiracy and cover-up involving lots of people and the manipulation of hundreds of archives, or single foreign newspaper fact-checking error?

46 posted on 07/08/2010 8:37:34 AM PDT by LorenC
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