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To: Tailgunner Joe

“We have religious freedom in the USA not in spite of Christianity, but because of it.”

I’m sure you believe this, but all the evidence is against it.

From 312 AD (Constantine) through the 18th Century, Christianity dominated Europe, and so did religious oppression.

Perhaps you do not remember why the Pilgrims came here. It was to escape religious oppression. Who were they oppressed by? Muslims? Atheists? Hindus? They were oppressed by Christians.

Quite frankly the record of Christianity with regard to religious freedom is ghastly. There was even Christian religious persecution in the Colonies:

James Madison himself wrote: “That diabolical, hell-conceived principle of persecution rages among some. . . . There are at this time in the adjacent county not less than five or six well-meaning men in close jail for publishing their religious sentiments, which in the main are very orthodox. . . . So I must beg you to . . . pray for liberty of conscience for all.”

Historically, whenever religion, including Christianity, is mixed with politics, it is oppressive, and everyone without the same brand of Christianity is persecuted.

Religious freedom in this country is precisely because the founders understood if any religion gets mixed up with government, it will ultimately suppress all other varieties of religion, even if called by the same name.

Hank


83 posted on 07/05/2010 6:32:34 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief

Congratulations on the victories that you and yours have enjoyed since the 1960s.

As a conservative, I don’t share your view that the war against Christianity improved America during the last 50 years, I think that we have gone backwards, not forward.


87 posted on 07/05/2010 10:32:04 AM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: Hank Kerchief

You seem to forget that the pilgrims were Christians. They didn’t come here to escape Christianity, but to practice it. James Madison was a Christian. His belief in freedom of conscience was rooted in his Protestant Christian beliefs.


92 posted on 07/05/2010 12:54:08 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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