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As Oakland awaits justice for Oscar Grant III, will a manslaughter conviction be enough?
Contra Costa Times ^ | 7/4/10 | Matt O'Brien and Katy Murphy

Posted on 07/04/2010 10:02:30 AM PDT by SmithL

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1 posted on 07/04/2010 10:02:35 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

The usual “no justice, no peace” types normally don’t care about the victims. They usually only care about the killers, rapists & robbers.


2 posted on 07/04/2010 10:07:38 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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Just think of the mayhem if he is acquitted, especially now that Oakland has laid off 80 police officers.
3 posted on 07/04/2010 10:12:38 AM PDT by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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Just think of the mayhem if he is acquitted, especially now that Oakland has laid off 80 police officers.

The rioting over an acquittal would be incredible. Even a conviction on just a manslaughter charge would probably trigger significant rioting.

Considering that this is Oakland, there could be enough rioting to do millions of dollars in damage improvement. :=)

4 posted on 07/04/2010 10:24:11 AM PDT by Bob
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Rioting should be met with a significant show of lethal force. I am sick and tired of our society bowing down to this “oppressed” minority. If they don’t like it here, go back to the first country in your hyphenated identity.


5 posted on 07/04/2010 10:27:44 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: Bob

Don’t stop in Oakland, burn Berkeley while you’re at it.


6 posted on 07/04/2010 10:31:09 AM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: SmithL

There will be riots no matter what the verdicts are.


7 posted on 07/04/2010 10:35:38 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Prezdet Obama is what you get when you let the O.J. jury select a president !)
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To: Bob

Let them burn it down. Don’t send in fire fighters. Then we can listen to Obama say the judge acted stupidly but the arsonists were fully justified.
Hey if they catch a few Holder can decide that’s not the sort of case that should be prosecuted.


8 posted on 07/04/2010 10:40:55 AM PDT by wiggen (Government owned slave.)
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To: wiggen
Bad reporting.

If these dopes had bothered talking to any other the legal analysts covering the trial, instead of people who know nothing of how to run a trial (mall cops, really?), they'd have confirmed that the judge did the prosecution a favor by adding the lesser homicide charges.

A jury would not have convicted the accused of murder one. If the choice was that or acquittal, which is what the defense originally wanted, a simple yes or no, he'd likely have walked. This makes it far more likely he'll do prison time.

9 posted on 07/04/2010 10:52:39 AM PDT by leftofright
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This makes it far more likely he'll do prison time.

Ten years sounds about right to me as long as he does every single day of it.

10 posted on 07/04/2010 10:56:26 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: MindBender26

Very true- the looters will not be denied their new electronics or supply of booze.


11 posted on 07/04/2010 11:21:15 AM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: SmithL

The single defining issue here is the color of the dead guy. Had he been white- how many would even care? My guess is, the guy desperately deserved the tazer and that this was a tragedy. I feel for his family AND for the cop.

However- one must never let(a disaster)an occasion for riot go to waste.


12 posted on 07/04/2010 11:25:27 AM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: SmithL

Where is all of this “community outrage” when young black men die at the hands of other young black men, which happens everyday in Oakland and in every other urban hell-hole in the U.S.?


13 posted on 07/04/2010 11:42:49 AM PDT by American Infidel (Instead of vilifying success, try to emulate it)
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To: thethirddegree

Yea, just like thet did when the Lakers won.


14 posted on 07/04/2010 12:02:29 PM PDT by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: American Infidel

It only occurs when persons of different color, or different religion are involved. Jews vs. Muslims, Americans vs. Muslims, White vs. Black or or ethnicity


15 posted on 07/04/2010 12:05:33 PM PDT by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: SmithL

“But what is justice?”

It certainly isn’t a lynch mob.


16 posted on 07/04/2010 12:08:08 PM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: SmithL

The basic question is, should we decide criminal cases based on “what’s enough” for a group of community activists, or should we decide them based on the facts.


17 posted on 07/04/2010 12:20:48 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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Mehrsele is going to walk or get involuntary manslaughter and at the sentencing hearing, time served.

It’s far easier to draw up regs on where to mount your taser on your belt than it is to have some young black males act like law abiding citizens.

The riots are going to happen and innocent folks are going to get their property trashed, and maybe even hurt or killed. The costs to the city are going to be tremendous and this is even before the wrongful death suit.


18 posted on 07/04/2010 1:19:54 PM PDT by Molon Labbie
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To: SmithL

Can the judge do that since he was changed with murder?


19 posted on 07/04/2010 1:21:34 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Bob

There’s going to be riots regardless of what happens.

I’m just glad I am not living anywhere near Oakland now, nor will I ever again.

The entire Bay Area could sink into the ocean and I wouldn’t shed a tear.


20 posted on 07/04/2010 1:59:12 PM PDT by Ronin
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