What is oil spill doing to our health? Many questions, few answers in ongoing catastrophe

Stupidest post of the day. You are comparing apples to oranges. The crude you got on you wasn’t mixed with sea water, dear organisms and millons of gallons of Corexit.

61 posted on 07/08/2010 12:09:40 PM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)

To: My hearts in London - Everett

The Corexit is eating through the hulls of boats and I know that for a FACT.

62 posted on 07/08/2010 12:10:31 PM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)

To: My hearts in London - Everett

Not a stupid question. With millions off gallons of dispersant being used, what happens when it gets picked up in a hurricane or tropical storm and brought far inland? What sort of effects will it have in our brooks and streams and rivers and water tables? What happens as it is dumped on all our farmlands and forests? How is this going to effect our food chain?

I’ve been reading some very nasty predictions but want to see more scientifically-based research for uninvolved sources.

And what is the plan if these relief wells don’t work?

63 posted on 07/08/2010 12:20:28 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)

Well, BP won’t provide breathing devices to the workers. They say there is no reason to. And they won’t let them bring or use their own breathing apparatus, either.

I know that at least a few of the workers on the Valdez cleanup are still alive, because they have been on TV recently talking about the long-term breathing and neurological damage they contend were the results of working on the cleanup.

64 posted on 07/08/2010 12:26:36 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)

To: Wonder Warthog; rawcatslyentist

rawcat, don’t believe wonder. Do your own research. He’s getting his info from Nalco.

from the NALCO Material Safety Data Sheet for Corexit

PRIMARY ROUTES OF EXPOSURE :
Eye, Skin
HUMAN HEALTH HAZARDS - ACUTE :
EYE CONTACT :
May cause irritation with prolonged contact.
SKIN CONTACT :
May cause irritation with prolonged contact.
INGESTION :
Not a likely route of exposure. Can cause chemical pneumonia if aspirated into lungs following ingestion.
INHALATION :
Repeated or prolonged exposure may irritate the respiratory tract.
SYMPTOMS OF EXPOSURE :
Acute :
A review of available data does not identify any symptoms from exposure not previously mentioned.
Chronic :
Frequent or prolonged contact with product may defat and dry the skin, leading to discomfort and dermatitis.
AGGRAVATION OF EXISTING CONDITIONS :
Skin contact may aggravate an existing dermatitis condition.

http://lmrk.org/corexit_9500_uscueg.539287.pdf

In addition at that same website:

Our hazard evaluation has identified the following chemical substance(s) as hazardous. Consult Section 15 for the
nature of the hazard(s).
Hazardous Substance(s) CAS NO % (w/w)
Distillates, petroleum, hydrotreated light 64742-47-8 10.0 - 30.0
Propylene Glycol 57-55-6 1.0 - 5.0
Organic sulfonic acid salt Proprietary 10.0 - 30.0

65 posted on 07/08/2010 12:28:23 PM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)

Someone needs to ask Obama’s daughter if she is still asking her idiot father if he has plugged the damn hole yet.....=.=

66 posted on 07/08/2010 12:52:36 PM PDT by cranked

To: Wonder Warthog; rawcatslyentist

Watch this video, not toxic? Show me your test results.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq65E7rmO_k

Dr. Riki Ott. a toxicologist, has written books on the Valdez diaster and posted information on oil toxicity on her website here:

http://www.rikiott.com/spillinfo.php

Sound Truth & Corporate Myths -Riki’s book in its entirety, as a 4 meg pdf.

http://www.rikiott.com/pdf/Sound%20Truth.pdf

http://www.silenceinthesound.com/medicalissues.shtml

Communication to John Dingell requesting an oversight hearing (pdf document) (July, 2007) includes information on the long-term health effects suffered by cleanup workers

http://www.rikiott.com/pdf/Exhibit_10_Dingell_02_2007.p...

http://www.rikiott.com/pdf/congress_briefing.pdf

BP deliberately sinks oil with Corexit as cover up

BP’s massive oil spill will officially become the largest ever in the Gulf of Mexico this week. The volcanic oil that’s gushed for two and a half months will surpass the 140 million gallon mark, surpassing the record-setting Ixtoc I spill off Mexico’s coast from 1979 to 1980. Meanwhile, In a stunning interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper on June 29th, Allegiance Capitol Corporation V.P. Fred McCallister is claiming that BP is deliberately sinking oil with the toxic chemical dispersant Corexit, to hide the extent of the oil spill. By sinking the oil before it can be collected, BP won’t have to pay fines on it.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2010/07/bp-deliberately-sinks-oil-corexit-cover

The two versions of Corexit [Corexit 9500 and Corexit(R) EC9527A] believed to be in BP’s secret formula both contain 2-butoxyethanol, a substance known to cause headaches, vomiting and reproductive problems at high doses. According to the U.S. Coast Guard, one of these substances may:
• Cause moderate irritation and be harmful if absorbed through skin.
• Be harmful if swallowed, causing liver and kidney effects and/or damage. There may be irritation to the gastro-intestinal tract.
• Cause central nervous system effects, nausea, vomiting, anesthetic or narcotic effects from excessive exposure.
• Cause injury to red blood cells (hemolysis), kidney or the liver from repeated or excessive exposure.
It is easy to recognize BP’s underwater oil fountain as an environmental catastrophe, but human health is likely to be affected as well. Because of the dangers that both crude oil and chemical dispersants may pose to the liver, people with chronic liver disease are urged to take additional precautions if visiting the Gulf Coast this summer.

http://www.liversupport.com/wordpress/2010/06/will-recent-oil-spill-impact-those-with-liver-disease/

The main ingredients of Corexit is 2-Butoxyethanol which can make up to 60% of the dispersant and is known to be toxic to blood, kidneys, liver, and the central nervous system (CNS).
2-Butoxyethanol is also known to cause cancer, birth defects and has been found to cause genetic mutations and is a delayed chronic health hazard as well as an environmental hazardous material
Corexit also contains Arsenic, Cadmium, Chromium, Mercury, and Cyanide.
How effective is Corexit in dispersing Gulf crude?
Corexit 9500 is only 54.7% effective and Corexit 9527A is 63.4% effective in dispersing the crude oil found off the shores of South Louisiana.
BP has sprayed both Corexit 9500 and Corexit 9527 into the Gulf of Mexico to disperse the oil both of which have been banned in the UK since 1998 for failure to pass the Rocky Shores Test.
By BP’s own admission Corexit has the potential for bioaccumulation meaning it has the potential to accumulate in the tissues of organism beginning with the first organism in a food chain.
Why allow the use of these toxic dispersants?
Well the EPA has ordered BP to stop using the dispersants but BP has refused
Instead BP replied with its justification for using Corexit which the EPA responded to saying BP’s response “lacked sufficient analysis and focused more defending your initial decision” .
In general, the EPA justifies the use of dispersants because they are less toxic than oil and the cause less of an environment impact that oil along the coastline calling dispersants an environmental trade off which is the lesser of two evils.
However the choice of using Corexit contradicts both of those justifications.
Corexit is lethal in as little as 2.6 parts per million where oil is lethal in 11 parts per million meaning that Corexit is over 4 times more toxic than oil.
Furthermore scientific studies show that oil dispersed with Corexit is 11 times more lethal than oil alone.
In fact the study referenced showed that crude oil was lethal at 4250 parts per million to killifish but combination of oil mixed with Corexit was lethal in as little as 317.7 ppm.
“Dispersed oils were more toxic than crude oils,” noted the report.
The other justification of lessening the environmental impact along the shoreline doesn’t hold up either as the reason Corexit was banned in the UK is because it was in fact shown to have a “significant deleterious ecological change” on the shoreline.
The fact Corexit is 4 times as toxic as oil and up to 11 times as toxic when combined with oil it literally makes no sense to allow the use of such a toxic chemical that can “delete” the ecological systems along the Gulf coast.
A report in the journal Environmental Toxicology a decade ago concluded that lethality levels in “dispersed oil combinations were significantly more toxic to these organisms than .. crude oil.” Another study, this time of snails and amphipods reached exactly the same conclusion.
What are the long term effects of Corexit?
The EPA has stated over and over that the long term effects of the use of Corexit are unknown yet there is plenty of data documenting the long term effects on humans (see below).
Further making the EPA claims questionable is EPA’s Deepwater horizon response sites site clearly states that between 1 million and 2.5 million gallons of the neurotoxin pesticide Corexit was used in the 1979 ixtoc oil spill which makes it unfathomable that the EPA doesn’t know what the long term effects are of a chemical that has been widely used, and eventually banned in certain countries, over a period of 30 years.
To the contrary of the EPA’s statement scientific studies widely state Corexit 9527 has been tested extensively in the laboratory and used on oil spills since 1978 and a considerable number of toxicity reports exist concerning a wide variety of species.
So why does the Federal Government continue to tell us the the long term effects of the dispersant usage are unknown?
Why does the Federal Government continue to pretend like they know so little about the dispersant BP is being used?
What are the chemical components of the dispersants COREXIT 9500 and COREXIT 9527?
While the main ingredient which makes up to 60% of Corexit is reason enough to cause concern.
If you dig any more dirt on these let me know.
The components of COREXIT 9500 and 9527 are:
CAS Registry Number Chemical Name
57-55-6 1,2-Propanediol
111-76-2 2-butoxy-Ethanol
577-11-7 Butanedioic acid, 2-sulfo-, 1,4-bis(2-ethylhexyl) ester, sodium salt (1:1)
1338-43-8 Sorbitan, mono-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate
9005-65-6 Sorbitan, mono-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate, poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl) derivs.
9005-70-3 Sorbitan, tri-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate, poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl) derivs
29911-28-2 2-Propanol, 1-(2-butoxy-1-methylethoxy)-
64742-47-8 Distillates (petroleum), hydrotreated light
The have also been found to contain Arsenic, Cadmium, Chromium, Mercury, and Cyanide among other heavy metals
What are the Chronic Health effects of Corexit?
Here are some of the highlights from the MSDS for the active ingredient (2-butoxyethanol) – of Corexit (up to 60% by volume)
• Severe over-exposure can result in death.
• MUTAGENIC EFFECTS: Mutagenic for bacteria and/or yeast.
• The substance may be toxic to blood, kidneys, liver, central nervous system (CNS).
• Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance can produce target organs damage.
• Repeated exposure to highly (this) toxic material may produce general deterioration of health by an accumulation in one or many human organs.
• Hazardous in case of skin contact (permeator), of ingestion, of inhalation.
• May cause adverse reproductive effects (maternal and paternal fertility, fetoxicity)
• May cause birth defects (teratogenic)
• May cause cancer (tumorigenic)
• Penetrates intact skin easily and can cause systemic effects and central nervous system depression
• Inhalation: May cause irritation of the respiratory tract. May affect behavior (analgesia), behavior/central nervous system (headache, drowsiness, dizzness, stuttering, coma, weakness, ataxia, slurred speech, loss of coordination and judgement, personality changes, analgesia, blurred vision, tremor, excitement, somnolence), sense organs, the gastrointestinal tract (nausea, vomiting), metabolism (metabolic acidosis), respiration (dyspnea), urinary system (kidneys – hematuria, albuminuria, polyuria, oliguria, renal failure), liver (liver damage).
• Exposure to high vapor concentration may also cause corneal or lens opacity of the eyes.
• Ingestion: Causes gastrointestinal tract irritation with nausea, vomiting, diarrhea. May affect behavior/central
nervous system (see inhalation), respiration (dyspnea), metabolism, cardiovascular system.
• Chronic Potential Health Effects: Inhalation and Ingestion: Prolonged or repeated inhalation or ingestion may affect the liver, blood (changes in red blood cell count, pigmented or nucleated red blood cells, microcytosis with or without anemia, erythropenia, reticulocytosis, granulocytosis, leukocytosis), urinary system (kidneys -hematuria), metabolism (weight loss), endocrine system (spleen, thymus, pancreas). Prolonged or repeated inhalation of high concentrations may also cause lung hemmorrhage, congestion, bronchopneumonia.
• Classified in Canada as CLASS D-1A: Material causing immediate and serious toxic effects (VERY TOXIC).
• Classified in Canada as CLASS D-2B: Material causing other toxic effects (TOXIC)

http://www.protecttheocean.com/whats-in-corexit/#more-527

http://cynicalreport.wordpress.com/2010/06/27/how-toxic-is-corexit/

67 posted on 07/08/2010 1:20:11 PM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)

To: Wonder Warthog

You conveniently left out one of the worst ingredients.. Propylene Glycol.

Propylene Glycol

A cosmetic form of mineral oil found in automatic brake and hydraulic fluid and industrial antifreeze. In the skin and hair, propylene glycol works as a humescent, which causes retention of moisture content of skin or cosmetic products by preventing the escape of moisture or water. The Material Safety Data Sheet warns users to avoid skin contact with propylene glycol as this strong skin irritant can cause liver abnormalities and kidney damage.

and we aren’t talking about trace amounts like in other products. We are talking about close to 2 MILLION gallons of Corexit !!!! MIXED with crude which IS toxic regardless of what lies you try to spread here. Mix the oil, with millions of galllons of Corexit, add the dead and decaying marine life and micro organisms, other things such as fertilizer, pesticide runoffs, etc. in a very warm GOM.... What do you get? Toxic soup. It’s a roll of the dice and it’s untested waters. You don’t have a clue.

From label on Corexit:

nature of the hazard(s).
Hazardous Substance(s) CAS NO % (w/w)
Distillates, petroleum, hydrotreated light 64742-47-8 10.0 - 30.0
Propylene Glycol 57-55-6 1.0 - 5.0
Organic sulfonic acid salt Proprietary 10.0 - 30.0

http://antiagingchoices.com/harmful_ingredients/propylene_glycol.htm

68 posted on 07/08/2010 1:42:49 PM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)

To: Wonder Warthog

co-freaks are bad-mouthing the dispersant is that it “is” toxic to aquatic species.
____________
You ass, you don’t have to be an eco freak to care about “aquatic species”. By aquatic species do you mean Manatees, Dolphins, turtles, fish, shrimp, lobster, crabs, whales, etc. I effing care about them.

69 posted on 07/08/2010 1:44:57 PM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)

To: Wonder Warthog

For additional copies of an MSDS visit www.nalco.com and request access
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1. CHEMICAL PRODUCT AND COMPANY IDENTIFICATION
PRODUCT NAME : COREXIT® EC9500A
APPLICATION : OIL SPILL DISPERSANT
COMPANY IDENTIFICATION : Nalco Company
1601 W. Diehl Road
Naperville, Illinois
60563-1198
EMERGENCY TELEPHONE NUMBER(S) : (800) 424-9300 (24 Hours) CHEMTREC
NFPA 704M/HMIS RATING
HEALTH : 1 / 1 FLAMMABILITY : 1 / 1 INSTABILITY : 0 / 0 OTHER :
0 = Insignificant 1 = Slight 2 = Moderate 3 = High 4 = Extreme * = Chronic Health Hazard
2. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
Our hazard evaluation has identified the following chemical substance(s) as hazardous. Consult Section 15 for the
nature of the hazard(s).
Hazardous Substance(s) CAS NO % (w/w)
Distillates, petroleum, hydrotreated light 64742-47-8 10.0 - 30.0
Propylene Glycol 57-55-6 1.0 - 5.0
Organic sulfonic acid salt Proprietary 10.0 - 30.0
3. HAZARDS IDENTIFICATION
**EMERGENCY OVERVIEW**
CAUTION
May cause irritation with prolonged contact.
Keep away from heat. Keep away from sources of ignition - No smoking. Keep container tightly closed. Do not get in
eyes, on skin, on clothing. Do not take internally. Avoid breathing vapor. Use with adequate ventilation. In case of
contact with eyes, rinse immediately with plenty of water and seek medical advice. After contact with skin, wash
immediately with plenty of soap and water.
Wear suitable protective clothing.
Low Fire Hazard; liquids may burn upon heating to temperatures at or above the flash point. May evolve oxides of
carbon (COx) under fire conditions. May evolve

Illinois 60563-1198 • (630)305-1000
For additional copies of an MSDS visit www.nalco.com and request access
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1. CHEMICAL PRODUCT AND COMPANY IDENTIFICATION
PRODUCT NAME : COREXIT® EC9527A
APPLICATION : OIL SPILL DISPERSANT
COMPANY IDENTIFICATION : Nalco Company
1601 W. Diehl Road
Naperville, Illinois
60563-1198
EMERGENCY TELEPHONE NUMBER(S) : (800) 424-9300 (24 Hours) CHEMTREC
NFPA 704M/HMIS RATING
HEALTH : 2 / 2 FLAMMABILITY : 1 / 1 INSTABILITY : 0 / 0 OTHER :
0 = Insignificant 1 = Slight 2 = Moderate 3 = High 4 = Extreme * = Chronic Health Hazard
2. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
Our hazard evaluation has identified the following chemical substance(s) as hazardous. Consult Section 15 for the
nature of the hazard(s).
Hazardous Substance(s) CAS NO % (w/w)
2-Butoxyethanol 111-76-2 30.0 - 60.0
Organic sulfonic acid salt Proprietary 10.0 - 30.0
Propylene Glycol 57-55-6 1.0 - 5.0
3. HAZARDS IDENTIFICATION
**EMERGENCY OVERVIEW**
WARNING
Eye and skin irritant. Repeated or excessive exposure to butoxyethanol may cause injury to red blood cells
(hemolysis), kidney or the liver. Harmful by inhalation, in contact with skin and if swallowed.
Do not get in eyes, on skin, on clothing. Do not take internally. Use with adequate ventilation. Wear suitable
protective clothing. Keep container tightly closed. Flush affected area with water. Keep away from heat. Keep
away from sources of ignition - No smoking.
May evolve oxides of carbon (COx) under fire conditions.
PRIMARY ROUTES OF EXPOSURE :
Eye, Skin
HUMAN HEALTH HAZARDS - ACUTE :
EYE CONTACT :
Can cause moderate irritation

70 posted on 07/08/2010 1:47:00 PM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)

THIS IS NOT SOAP< LIAR:

71 posted on 07/08/2010 1:47:55 PM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)

Methinks by far the biggest health impact is from people stressing out about something that will not affect them.

72 posted on 07/08/2010 1:52:16 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)

To: Wonder Warthog

That is a lie They have used 9527A and 9500A. You need to post links when you make statements like that. These are the 2 they are using:

1. CHEMICAL PRODUCT AND COMPANY IDENTIFICATION
PRODUCT NAME : COREXIT® EC9527A
APPLICATION : OIL SPILL DISPERSANT
COMPANY IDENTIFICATION : Nalco Company
1601 W. Diehl Road
Naperville, Illinois
60563-1198
EMERGENCY TELEPHONE NUMBER(S) : (800) 424-9300 (24 Hours) CHEMTREC
NFPA 704M/HMIS RATING
HEALTH : 2 / 2 FLAMMABILITY : 1 / 1 INSTABILITY : 0 / 0 OTHER :
0 = Insignificant 1 = Slight 2 = Moderate 3 = High 4 = Extreme * = Chronic Health Hazard
2. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
Our hazard evaluation has identified the following chemical substance(s) as hazardous. Consult Section 15 for the
nature of the hazard(s).
Hazardous Substance(s) CAS NO % (w/w)
2-Butoxyethanol 111-76-2 30.0 - 60.0
Organic sulfonic acid salt Proprietary 10.0 - 30.0
Propylene Glycol 57-55-6 1.0 - 5.0

1. CHEMICAL PRODUCT AND COMPANY IDENTIFICATION
PRODUCT NAME : COREXIT® EC9500A
APPLICATION : OIL SPILL DISPERSANT
COMPANY IDENTIFICATION : Nalco Company
1601 W. Diehl Road
Naperville, Illinois
60563-1198
EMERGENCY TELEPHONE NUMBER(S) : (800) 424-9300 (24 Hours) CHEMTREC
NFPA 704M/HMIS RATING
HEALTH : 1 / 1 FLAMMABILITY : 1 / 1 INSTABILITY : 0 / 0 OTHER :
0 = Insignificant 1 = Slight 2 = Moderate 3 = High 4 = Extreme * = Chronic Health Hazard
2. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
Our hazard evaluation has identified the following chemical substance(s) as hazardous. Consult Section 15 for the
nature of the hazard(s).
Hazardous Substance(s) CAS NO % (w/w)
Distillates, petroleum, hydrotreated light 64742-47-8 10.0 - 30.0
Propylene Glycol 57-55-6 1.0 - 5.0
Organic sulfonic acid salt Proprietary 10.0 - 30.0
3. HAZARDS IDENTIFICATION
**EMERGENCY OVERVIEW**
CAUTION
May cause irritation with prolonged contact.
Keep away from heat. Keep away from sources of ignition - No smoking. Keep container tightly closed. Do not get in
eyes, on skin, on clothing. Do not take internally. Avoid breathing vapor. Use with adequate ventilation. In case of
contact with eyes, rinse immediately with plenty of water and seek medical advice. After contact with skin, wash
immediately with plenty of soap and water.
Wear suitable protective clothing.
Low Fire Hazard; liquids may burn upon heating to temperatures at or above the flash point. May evolve oxide

The public’s inability to get answers is especially troubling, since more and more information is coming to light regarding the cozy relationship between the Government, the EPA and private industry involved in this catastrophe. The New York Times reported that Nalco Co., the manufacturer of Corexit 9500 hired a former EPA employee as a lobbyist.

DATE: July 08, 2010 09:11:57 CST
Operations and Ongoing Response – July 08, 2010
Deepwater Horizon Response – July 8, 2010

Monday, July 7 Statistics

RESPONSE VESSELS
Vessels of Opportunity: 3,190
Barges: more than 460
Skimmers: more than 560
Other Vessels: more than 2,470
Total active response vessels: more than 6,680

Aircraft: 112

BOOM DATA
Boom deployed: more than 3 million feet
Boom available: more than 930,000 feet
Total boom: more than 3.93 million feet

OIL RECOVERED
Oily water recovered: nearly 28.65 million gallons
Amount estimated burned: nearly 9.99 million gallons

Oil captured (CAP) over last 24hrs: more than 1.03 million gallons

DISPERSANTS
Surface dispersant used: more than 1.07 million gallons
Subsea dispersant used: more than 669,000 gallons
Total dispersant used: more than 1.74 million gallons

PERSONNEL INVOLVED
Overall personnel responding: more than 47,000 personnel responding

http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/go/doc/2931/764699/

People working to cleanup the BP oil spill could very well face the prospect of long-term health problems. According to a report on CNN last night, cleanup workers from the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill are still suffering health problems, 21 years later.

A lawyer who represented on such Exxon Valdez worker told CNN that One examination of health records of 11,000 Exxon Valdez cleanup workers found that 6,722 of them had gotten sick. The government and the company called those illnesses the “Exxon crud,” a flu or cold that Exxon was not required to report to federal health officials, CNN said.
One former Exxon Valdez cleanup worker interviewed by CNN said he was “slowly poisoned” by the toxins he was exposed to. Today, he continues to suffer from rashes, respiratory problems, and is going blind.

http://www.newsinferno.com/archives/21833

Chemistry is a fascinating science. Mix chemical A with chemical B, raise the temperature and bang... a new compound. It could be good. It could be bad. It could be nothing. To know something, it needs extensive testing. Simply testing in a flask or test tube is not enough. Proper testing takes time and is expensive.

The question to which no one knows the answer is how Corexit reacts to all the chemical and compound elements gushing from BP’s volcanic crude oil disaster. It is a difficult question because there are hundreds of variables at play - Examples are pressure, water salinity, temperature, light, bioaccumulation, wave action, so many others and the hardest... time. There are also allegations that Corexit was responsible for “work injuries” and linked to possible deaths during the Exxon Valdez disaster

NALCO COREXIT INGREDIENT LIST (Not written by a PR company)

1,2-Propanediol - The primary ingredient in aircraft anti-freeze and automotive anti-freeze. Used as the killing and preserving agent in pitfall traps, usually used to capture ground beetles. Mixing anti-freeze with heavy metals (iron, cobalt, copper, manganese, molybdenum, zinc, mercury, plutonium, lead, arsenic, aluminium, mercury, cadmium... see list of ingredients spewed by the volcanic oil gusher) makes it very toxic. Not recommended for your aquarium. Don’t try going to a sushi restaurant, get salmon eggs, tobiko or uni and start soaking them in anti-freeze.

Ethanol, 2-butoxy-

Butanedioic acid, 2-sulfo-, 1,4-bis(2-ethylhexyl) ester, sodium salt (1:1) - Animal studies on rats and rabbits show depression, diarrhea, lethargy, irritation and hemorrhage of the gastrointestinal tract, erythema, edema, premature skin death, malformed fetuses, irritation, coarse skin and of course - death! Oh... it kills fish!

Sorbitan, mono-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate - NOAA CAMEO (Comparative Analysis Of Marine Ecosystem Organization) Chemicals page states that exposure to this chemical may cause “chemical pneumonitis”, intestinal obstruction, and eye, skin and respiratory tract irritation.

Sorbitan, mono-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate, poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl) derivs.

Sorbitan, tri-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate, poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl) derivs - No toxicity warning found on this stuff. Yey!

2-Propanol, 1-(2-butoxy-1-methylethoxy) - The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health’s Registry of Toxic Effects of Chemical Substances lists it as a suspected neurotoxicant.

Distillates (petroleum), hydrotreated light - Kerosene... also sold as GumOut Small Engine Gas Treatment I do not recommend you put GumOut in your aquarium... the fish might not be happy.

Also I was sent another tip that Corexit 9500 also has Dihydrogen Monoxide but I can’t confirm this because Nalco will not reveal if Dihydrogen Monoxide is in fact a secret ingredient in Corexit 9500. At any rate, more information is good and if DHMO is in Corexit, it’s really bad and nasty stuff. It mutates DNA, denatures proteins, disrupts cell membranes, and chemically alter critical neurotransmitters. The atomic components of DHMO are found in a number of fun stuff such as caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol.

So many unanswered questions!

Nalco of Naperville, Ill., estimates it will sell $40 million worth of the dispersant Corexit, which BP has used heavily to break up oil in the water — up from about $2 million in typical annual sales

73 posted on 07/08/2010 2:09:35 PM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)

Do we really have any idea how this might impact Americans or the rest of the world? As all this toxic crud is circulated through the inland waterways and over agricultural fields by tropical storms and evaporation, we cannot really begin to anticipate the sort of damage it might do.

A huge part of the problem is that we don’t even have any idea how much crude is being spewed out on a daily basis, or how much methane. We don’t have accurate double-checked amounts of the dispersant being used. Neither the Feds not the company can be trusted to give us accurate numbers. What makes you think that *either* of these entities has your best interests at heart? Do you really trust them?

I suppose ther is a natural response to say, “Well I can’t do anything about it, so why worry? What happens, happens.”

If we truly believe that we can’t do anything about it, then we ought to understand what has happened that Americans feel so helpless to improve anything in the face of this situation. There seems to be an unhealthy alliance between Big Oil and Big Government at this point, where business money is used to guarantee that only kindly-inclined government officials get elected. I like to hear some Conservatives like Palin talk about what this alliance has done to destroy Americans’ sense of self-determination.

Right now it seems as if most Americans feel so helpless - just lucky to have a job and health insurance, when it’s so easy to lose them - that they’ll settle for what they have without trying to change it. The alternative may be worse.

74 posted on 07/08/2010 3:08:29 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)

well the toxicity of the dispersant would explain the necessity to shred the 1st amendment.

Can't have massive numbers of dead TV reporters in the next few months, can we?

Otherwise they would be all too happy to broadcast the cap and trade show in HD, now wouldn't they!

75 posted on 07/08/2010 6:45:42 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you, O you most proud, said the Lord God of hosts.)

Complete bullshit. You're just regurgitating the green crap. Look, I KNOW about this stuff. I know about all the ingredients in it. They are NOT particularly toxic. You CANNOT use an MSDS to judge risk factors, because an MSDS sheet has NO information about the DOSAGES necessary to cause the various symptoms.

The 2-butoxyethanol compound is NOT an ingredient in Corexit 9500. It is ONLY found in Corexit 9527, which, IF it has been used at all in this spill was only during the earliest phases, after which ONLY Corexit 9500 has been used. IF it was used at all, it has long degraded away and/or been diluted below any possible toxic level.

Lastly, I get my information from the EPA and other science sites, or from looking up scholarly paper in Google Scholar. That means I don't get the green crap that you are putting all your faith in. The ONLY information I have gotten from Nalco is the list of ingredients in Corexit 9500 and 9527, for which they waived their trade secret rights.

76 posted on 07/08/2010 7:12:01 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog

You are not just a fool, but you're a damned fool. The ONLY way the dispersants are toxic to aquatic life is to FISH, and the reason for that toxicity is that it coats the gills and changes the ability of the gill structure to absorb oxygen. For species that breath air, it has no signicant toxicity. Crude oil is FAR more toxic to those species than Corexit.

77 posted on 07/08/2010 7:15:07 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog

"Chemistry is a fascinating science. Mix chemical A with chemical B, raise the temperature and bang... a new compound. It could be good. It could be bad. It could be nothing. To know something, it needs extensive testing. Simply testing in a flask or test tube is not enough. Proper testing takes time and is expensive."

WOW, you're gonna teach ME, with a PhD in chemistry about the facts of chemistry. What chutzpah.

Go to "Google Scholar" (not main Google) and type in 2-butoxyethanol and toxicology, and see how many hundreds of links are there (I stopped clicking through after thirty pages). All to peer reviewed scientific studies that have been done over many years.

The idea that these compounds are somehow mysterious and not tested is simply misleading crap.

But you go ahead and keep on believing the BS. In two years, when the ecology will have fully recovered, and there have been NO deaths directly attributable to the dispersants, I'll laugh in your face.

78 posted on 07/08/2010 7:23:06 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog

To: Wonder Warthog

Well sh*t then all is well in the world, who needs the stupid fish anyway. You’re a damn fool. Don’s spew your crap when I know the facts. I’m not going to squeal on the ones that give me my info since they are supposed to keep their mouths shut. I know better. Oh, and by the way, the Corexit is eating through the hulls of Coast Guard boats. hmmmm. I’m sure those sea creatures are tougher than fiberglass though. Get a boat and get your as* out there. Then come back and tell me what you see. Piss off

79 posted on 07/09/2010 10:09:11 AM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)

To: Wonder Warthog

ou’re gonna teach ME, with a PhD in chemistry about the facts of chemistry.
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Even if that’s true, it doesn’t mean jack. You have no clue as to what the toxicity is in the GOM. NOT A CLUE. Nalco and EPA have both admitted we are in uncharted territories with this amount of Corexit and oil in the warm Gulf waters.

80 posted on 07/09/2010 10:11:41 AM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)

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