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1 posted on 07/01/2010 8:27:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Democrats are pessimistic about actually passing any new immigration laws this year, in part because the lead Republican partner in Congress, Sen. Lindsey Graham (S.C.), has said Congress should proceed with other issues instead.

Those who are expected to attend Thursday’s speech at American’s School of International Service in Northwest Washington include longtime civil rights leader Al Sharpton, Phoenix Police Chief Jack Harris, media mogul Mort Zuckerman, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Reps. Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif.) and Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) and Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, officials said.


2 posted on 07/01/2010 8:28:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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CORRECTION;
Obama to call for comprehensive AMNESTY Bill...
3 posted on 07/01/2010 8:30:18 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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Oh goody...another war front....


4 posted on 07/01/2010 8:30:48 AM PDT by goodnesswins (DEMOCRATS LOSE.....America WINS!)
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This speech is unfreakin' believable! FUBO!!!!
5 posted on 07/01/2010 8:30:56 AM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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"There's been the Arizona law, there's been meetings about it, there's been protests about it. He thought this was a good time to talk plainly with the American people about his views on immigration."

The president has been looking for ways to appear more proactive, rather than reactive ...

ROTFL. Which way did my people go? I need to get ahead of them so I can lead them.
6 posted on 07/01/2010 8:32:05 AM PDT by Cboldt
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I think (hope) that Obama is really not going to do anything on Amnesty prior to the election. I think (hope) this is just a ploy to rally the Hispanic vote for November as the Dems hope this will limit the losses expected.


8 posted on 07/01/2010 8:33:13 AM PDT by eekitsagreek (Hey, hey! You can ask iJ!)
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He's on Fox Cable right now pushing for his agenda on illegals..

We shouldn't punish people who are just trying to make a living!!

9 posted on 07/01/2010 8:33:13 AM PDT by LADY J (Change your thoughts and you change your world.. - Norman Vincent Peale)
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Can anyone explain why new "LAWS" are required? When the Feds will not enforce the laws on the books? And we should believe anything they promise when passing this? Kennedy promised in 1986 that would be the last AMNESTY ever AND the border would be SECURED.

Don't believe one word coming out of boy king's lying pie hole today.
10 posted on 07/01/2010 8:33:42 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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This speech is dragging terribly. Awful. He just doesn’t have it.


13 posted on 07/01/2010 8:34:26 AM PDT by lawnguy (The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil-Cicero)
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FUBO should give that speech somewhere in Arizona.


14 posted on 07/01/2010 8:34:32 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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“he is not expected to announce any new policy during the 10:45 a.m. address”

This is the key phrase here, and it’s accurate. The speech will just be more vague, flowery bullshit flowing from the teleprompter. The usual 0bama act. He won’t EVER say anything specific.

His toadies in Congress will do his heavy lifting and come up with the amnesty bill.


15 posted on 07/01/2010 8:34:46 AM PDT by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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Can’t watch him.

Can’t listen to him.

Will wait for summary reports.


16 posted on 07/01/2010 8:35:06 AM PDT by Will88
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This s—of a b-—h is really making me mad! He is lying through his teeth! Time for the governors to arm the citizens and put them on the border!!


18 posted on 07/01/2010 8:36:00 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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This article is co-authored by Michael Savage??? Seems awfully vanilla for anything with his name on it.


19 posted on 07/01/2010 8:37:42 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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21 posted on 07/01/2010 8:38:29 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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Is it just me, or are his eyes drooping? Is he drunk or hung over? Or is he boring himself to sleep?


22 posted on 07/01/2010 8:38:33 AM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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The proponents of amnesty are wont to create the false choice between a blanket amnesty and mass deportation of 12 to 20 million illegal aliens. In reality, we have other choices and alternatives that don’t reward people who have broken our laws with the right to stay and work here and an eventual path to citizenship. The 12 to 20 million illegal aliens did not enter this country overnight and they will not leave overnight. Attrition through enforcement works. We have empirical data from Georgia, Oklahoma, and Arizona proving that it does. During the 2006 amnesty debate, the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) commissioned a Zogby poll offering respondents not the false choice between mass deportation or amnesty (a word CIS did not use in the survey), but rather a three-way choice between mass deportation, earned legalization, and attrition — and attrition was preferred two-to-one over legalization.


25 posted on 07/01/2010 8:39:30 AM PDT by kabar
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President Obama is delivering a speech Thursday morning that will frame the issue on his own terms -- calling for comprehensive legislation and the importance of keeping the border secure... But he is not expected to announce any new policy

Another lofty speech about nothing. Here, let me write it for the teleprompter right now:

"Let me clear on one thing, and that thing is, that this problem is not going to get better on it's own. We know that. We need solutions not rhetoric. Unity of purpose and not the disunity of hate. People are suffering, both here and in nations that inspire people to make the arduous journey trying to get here. Let me be clear, though those people have broken alleged laws, they are not lawbreakers. Solutions that are necessary must reflect this basic tenet of our national history and our lofty ideals for the global world. We have welcoming arms but know that people are struggling in border states which represent the ideals and character of our nation. Let me be clear, though I inherited this border situation on our borders, I do not intend to let this situation deteriorate further in light of our dreams for our future. I propose this, while we reflect on our national policy of immigration and the prosperity we seek to preserve and expand with an eye our national character and the future going forward..."

26 posted on 07/01/2010 8:40:32 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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THE TRUTH ABOUT AMNESTY

Definition: Amnesty, from the same Greek root as “amnesia,” forgives past crimes and removes them from the record for future purposes. In the context of immigration, amnesty is commonly defined as granting legal status to a group of individuals unlawfully present in a country. It overlooks the alien’s illegal entry and ongoing illegal presence and creates a new legal status that allows the recipient to live and work in the country.

The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986: The textbook example of an amnesty. The 1986 law’s path to citizenship was not automatic. The legislation stipulated several requirements to receive amnesty, including payment of application fees, acquisition of English-language skills, understanding of American civics, a medical exam, and registration for military service. Individuals convicted of a felony or three misdemeanors were ineligible. No one disputes that this act provided amnesty. Supporters said it would be a “one-time” amnesty. It was estimated that one million would apply, but the true number turned out to be 2.7 million.

The Secure Borders, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Reform Act of 2007 [aka McCain-Kennedy CIR bill]: This bill resembled the 1986 amnesty in several important ways. Like that law, it would have granted amnesty to individuals unlawfully present in the United States. Its provisions proved that it was definitely an “amnesty,” which its proponents, including President Obama, denied. Specifically,

• Only illegal aliens were eligible. Created a new “Z” visa exclusively for illegal aliens, granting legal status to those who have willfully violated U.S. laws and denying that benefit to law-abiding aliens who have played by the rules.
• Immigration laws were set aside. Before anyone even applied for a probationary Z visa, the legislation would have set aside the immigration laws that currently criminalize the presence of illegal aliens. The bill waived compliance with several laws as a condition for eligibility for the amnesty, including those concerning illegal entry, failure to appear for a removal proceeding, fraud in obtaining documentation to enter the United States, falsely claiming citizenship, and reentry after having been ordered removed.
• Eligibility leads to permanent residence. Probationary Z visas could be valid for years. The Z visa could be renewed every four years indefinitely. The bill granted legal status to virtually all of the 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens who are in the country today, and there was no cap on the total number of illegal aliens who could receive Z visa status.

Impact of Amnesty: In analyzing the 2007 CIR bill, Robert Rector of The Heritage Foundation stated, “The main fiscal impact…will occur through two mechanisms: (1) the grant of amnesty, with accompanying access to Social Security, Medicare and welfare benefits, to 12 million illegal immigrants who are overwhelmingly low skilled; and (2) a dramatic increase in chain immigration, which will also be predominantly low skilled. The bottom line is that high school dropouts are extremely expensive to U.S. taxpayers. It does not matter whether the dropout comes from Ohio, Tennessee, or Mexico. It does matter that the Senate immigration bill would increase the future flow of poorly educated immigrants into the U.S. and grant amnesty and access to government benefits to millions of poorly educated illegal aliens already here. Such legislation would inevitably impose huge costs on U.S. taxpayers.”

Heritage research has concluded that the cost of amnesty alone would be $2.6 trillion. And the number of additional LEGAL immigrants who would join those who were the recipients of amnesty through chain migration, i.e., family reunification, would approach 70 million over a 20-year period, assuming there are only 12 million illegal aliens. We cannot assimilate such numbers. An amnesty would destroy the United States of America with the stroke of a pen. Amnesty is forever.

The Alternative to a Blanket Amnesty:

The proponents of amnesty are wont to create the false choice between a blanket amnesty and mass deportation of 12 to 20 million illegal aliens. In reality, we have other choices and alternatives that don’t reward people who have broken our laws with the right to stay and work here and an eventual path to citizenship. The 12 to 20 million illegal aliens did not enter this country overnight and they will not leave overnight. Attrition through enforcement works. We have empirical data from experiences in Georgia, Colorado, and Arizona proving that it does. Specifically, we need to:

• Secure the borders. You cannot deal with those already here illegally without cutting off the endless supply of those wanting to enter illegally. Until the borders are secured, it is absurd to discuss additional guest worker programs and amnesty.
• Fully implement the US-VISIT Program. There are over 4 million aliens now in illegal status, i.e., people who entered legally as tourists or students or temporary workers but did not leave when their visa expired. We need a system that tracks who enters and leaves the country and deport those who overstay their visas. More than 30% of our illegal alien population come from visa overstays.
• Enforce existing laws against employers. Jobs are the magnets that attract illegal aliens. The government’s failure to enforce existing laws against employers and to create a proper employee verification program must end. The highly successful and effective voluntary E-Verify program has been temporarily extended by Congress but its future is still in doubt. This essential tool for preventing the employment of illegal aliens should be made permanent and mandatory, especially at a time when close to 16 million Americans and legal residents are out of work.
• Implement 287[g] nationwide. The federal government must provide state and local law enforcement with the training and access to databases to coordinate and leverage existing law enforcement assets to identify and deport illegal aliens who are committing crimes that have killed or injured tens of thousands of Americans.
• Enact state and local laws to discourage illegal settlement. Eliminate sanctuary cities and other benefits that reward illegal aliens and legitimize their presence.
• Streamline judicial processing and adjudication of immigration cases.

In the 1986 amnesty legislation, we tried amnesty without enforcement. It’s time to try enforcement without amnesty.


28 posted on 07/01/2010 8:40:53 AM PDT by kabar
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In a nutshell he said we need “better” immigration laws, it’s unreasonable to expect deportation of 11 million people, go after employers, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH!

STFU 0!


32 posted on 07/01/2010 8:42:47 AM PDT by RoseyT
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