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To: Talisker

It’s very refreshing to have an adult conversation about this case.

Please see my two posts above regarding the sections of the penal code the court directed the jury to consider.

But I would take issue with your assertion that the events leading up to this (unfortunate) shooting were not “controlled”, and that “... the victim was unarmed and in a neutralized physical position, under the control of the officer.” Seriously misstates the situation.

From the Oakland court records, prior to this trial:

“Officer Pirone directed Officer Mehserle to arrest two of the individuals who had not been handcuffed. One of the individuals to be arrested was Oscar Grant, and Officer Pirone’s direction to Mehserle was overheard by Grant. Grant, upon hearing that he was under arrest, attempted to stand up, but was forced to the ground face first. Both Officer Mehserle and Officer Pirone attempted to restrain Mr. Grant and to seek his compliance by ordering him to put his hands behind his back to be handcuffed, but Mr. Grant resisted and refused to submit to handcuffing. Officer Mehserle was pulling at Mr. Grant’s right hand and arm, which remained under his torso near his waistband. Mr. Grant had not been searched by any officer for weapons, either prior to his initial detention or after being seated near the wall.”

Pirone said he told Grant “Stop resisting, you’re under arrest, put your hands behind your back.” At that time Pirone said he heard Mehserle say, “Put your hands behind your back, stop resisting, stop resisting, put your hands behind your back.” Then Mehserle said, “I’m going to taze him, I’m going to taze him. I can’t get his arms. He won’t give me his arms. His hands are going for his waistband.” Then Mehserle popped up and said, “Tony, Tony, get away, back up, back up.” Pirone did not know if Grant was armed. Mehserle had fear in his voice. Pirone had never heard Mehserle’s voice with that tone. Mehserle sounded afraid.

source:

People v. Mehserle, Motion to Set Bail, Case No. 547353-7 (Alameda Cty., Cal.)”. 2009.


10 posted on 07/01/2010 9:37:12 AM PDT by absalom01 (Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: absalom01

Wow! Interesting testimony. Keep me informed. When is the verdict supposed to come down?


12 posted on 07/01/2010 9:43:10 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists".)
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