You should be very proud of family members who join a “criminal conspiracy”. Hayes election removed all restraints from the terrorist arm of the Democrat Party, the KKK, and the dregs of the RAT Rebellion went on a murder rampage to restore the party’s power. Of course, the deluded and foolish cheer that black spot on our national honor.
Who or what they fought for is irrelevant if it is wiped away by treachery as part of a TRUE criminal conspiracy circa 1861-5.
Naturally you have no regard for those who gave their whole life fighting for and strengthening this nation. Believing instead that the snake Jefferson was preferable to Hamilton and Washington shows that you have no real knowledge of the era 1790 to 1800 or of the ideals which motivated the best of that generation, the Federal Republican Party. Whereas Jefferson’s enemies, W and H, were statesmen of the highest nature and the latter wrote the majority of the greatest political philosophy since Aristotle Jefferson’s political theories were absurd at best and his economic theories even more so. He didn’t even have the guts to directly attack his opponents being a coward at heart and used others to do his dirty work.
Jefferson was definitely one of the greatest manipulators of the stupid and gullible and his party, the Democrat, remains true to his form. It began with lies and has never turned from the tactics of raising false issues and using class warfare to divide this nation. The more one learns about J the less one (if there is any integrity in them) thinks of him. He is the greatest hypocrite this nation has ever elevated to the presidency and easily the most overrated president we ever had.
Lincoln did little that Jefferson Davis did not do or the perpetrators of the RAT Rebellion would not do.
As one who was born and raised in the South I am quite familiar with the absurdities some there still believe about the RAT Rebellion and the evil it unleashed on the region. The Slaveocracy cared NOTHING about this nation or their fellow southerners. It cared about ONE THING, slavery and its perpetration, and its blather about “rights” was nothing but rhetoric. It was hooked on a economic system hundreds of years out of date one which did not include the vast majority of the whites of the region who were DRAFTED to defend it. Only because of the tremendous ignorance of the lower classes were the Slavers able to use their false concept of what the Union was and what the Constitution meant. Jefferson is to be thanked for that.
Naturally the railroads and Western expansion were concerns of everyone including Southerners, but they did not have the ability to create an extensive RR system because those who controlled the South were not men with modern views or understanding of historical change which this nation represented.
Obama has nothing to do with Lincoln and your allegation wrt Lincoln’s statue has less to do with any ideas of his than it does with the fact that he freed the slaves.
Your use of concepts such as totalitarianism does not change your statements from crap to gold and virtually every allegation is entirely false. And those who actually do have extensive knowledge of our history can easily see that your hysterical nonsense is only that not to be taken seriously by those with a regard for the truth.
Even more laughable is your use of “elitism” while defending people who were complete elitists such as the aristocrat, Jefferson. No wonder you swallow the bilge of crackpots such as DiLorenzo and use it to fuel your insane hatred of one of our greatest, if not the greatest, president.
BTW when Abe was elected the federal government was TINY certainly nothing capable of “tyranny” of any type nor of any threat to the South. Only because of the Slaver attempt to destroy the Union did it grow to defend it.
If you love Hamilton, then I'm sure you like the Federal Reserve, and FDR and JPMorgan for that matter. If you love Lincoln, because, uh.. I guess you HAVE to, since he wears the Union label, then one can understand the confusion and breakdown. The war was unnecessary. Slavery was going away in a generation in the wake of industrial farming, and many in the South tried to prevent war— it was not to be. The selective tariffs and rise of the English empire, and the desperate conversion of northern mills from wool to cotton to compete with it, was not going away. The South was going to become very powerful. What the war was- it was an opportunity for the northern oligarchs, and the original slavers of Boston to maintain their grip on industrial might and westward expansion and to seize the natural wealth and property of free citizens which they continue to do to this day. Jefferson contributed mightily to that westward expansion. So many are confused by big versus little “R”. The “party of Lincoln” is now the present day Democrat party, not the Republican— true Southerners understand that rather well as it took 100 years. And we live every day under the assumptive self-righteous liberalism and white (and black) guilt foisted on us by the masters at Harvard and Yale. These same mongers gave us our current puppet present..dent, with a statue of Lincoln on his dais under the delusion that Lincoln “freed the slaves”,because it helps delude black voters and gives an empty nothing man something to use that way. Lincoln did not free anything— he made a political statement in desperation calculated to foment revolt and chaos and save his election. It took an Amendment to the Constitution to “free the slaves”. Lincoln would have been happy to have shipped all slaves to Liberia. What was most important to him and his, was strong central govt. control. So now we are treated to Clinton describing Byrd as having a “fleeting” relationship with the Klan (a lifetime one) the classic Klan democrat from the past, and a Union state, WV so he could "get elected". Imagine the kind of loonie mind that thinks that was "ok" and says it. Always present is the underlying knowledge that regardless of the “parties” at hand— it is the oligarchs in control dividing us from true conservatism and a Constitutional republican form of government. The South fought to retain rights far beyond slavery, and the country is reaping the harvest of a nightmare of generations of progressivism that began with Lincoln- income tax, welfare, eminent domain ..all just the start.
One has to be very fearful of freedom to want to control people so much— your discomfort is evidenced by your verbage. Such “conservatism” is happy with ever increasing controlling bureaucracy, leading to the permanent government employee type of conservative- a sad lonely figure with no challenge of private commerce.
Speaking of what you state is delusional thinking, how about a fact: Washington distrusted Hamilton completely and agreed with Jefferson's (his Sec. of State) opinion of Hamilton that equated him and all the Federalists with Tory monarchists who threatened the new republic. The elitists were the monarchists not the Jefferson republicans and Washington. I'm gathering from reading and answering this screed, that there is something else driving this emotionalism and lack of clear understanding— a script of thought interspersed with “facts” that are essential to the false narrative. I would contend that the most difficult position of all is for one to try be a conservative in the North, there being all kinds of axles one must wrap one’s self around. Perhaps that's what it is. Like being a black conservative, vilified and ostracized for believing what our Founders meant for every person and not a tyranny predicated on judging historical figures on the basis of modern moralism. As I've said, generational experiential memory brings powerful meaning to totalitarianism. Southerners who know and do not hate themselves or comfort themselves with revisionist history,can still remember and be prepared for what is to come. Signing off. Deo Vindice