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Exclusive: Are Rumors of Illegal Alien Amnesty True?
Family Security Matters ^ | June 28, 2010 | The Editor

Posted on 06/29/2010 5:14:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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He's gotten away with everything so far, why should he be worried? Things that, by themselves, would've seen almost every other previous president impeached or worse are like water off a duck's back to this man, as he attends parties, plays golf and vacations every other day.
1 posted on 06/29/2010 5:14:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not a fan of OReilly, but I think he’s right on this one...
If Obama tries it, he’s toast.


2 posted on 06/29/2010 5:15:36 PM PDT by Skared2deth
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No, I think that's when we meet his new “Civilian National Security Force” which was put together for just such an occasion.
3 posted on 06/29/2010 5:17:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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It's like he & his cronies are simply props, no power, just for show, and the real work is being done by a behind the scenes machine which doesn't care whether he's impeached or not.
4 posted on 06/29/2010 5:20:55 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: Skared2deth
This was being discussed on kfi radio this afternoon as well.. think he was to make an announcement at some speech he was giving this Thursday
5 posted on 06/29/2010 5:20:55 PM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

10 million? more like 30-40 million.


6 posted on 06/29/2010 5:22:06 PM PDT by muddler (Obama is either incompetent or malicious, and it makes little difference which.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There certainly isn’t any rush to get rid of the illegals and now Obozo is calling on “immigrant rights groups” and unions to push for amnesty.


7 posted on 06/29/2010 5:22:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: JoanneSD

bttt


8 posted on 06/29/2010 5:22:22 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Obama tries this by an Executive Order, the EO could be rejected by the Senate and overridden. Do any of you remember Executive Order 13083 when Bill Clinton tried to remove the Tenth Amendment? The Senate overturned it and tonguelashed the White House. Seems like the vote was 99-0, or something similar. Obama might have been elected by a slight majority, but that majority is evaporated. He should be impeached if he tries to circumvent the congress.


9 posted on 06/29/2010 5:24:13 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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I've just recently read the statutes. And, as a practical matter, this just isn't possible. While it's true Obama could pardon (grant amnesty) for the violation(s) of 8 U.S.C. § 1325, and the other associated violations of US Code commited by illegaly entering the country, that would be the end of it. He could shield the illegals from criminal jeopardy, but he could not grant them asylum, or any kind of permanent residency with the stroke of a pen.

Asylum and permanent residency are both strictly controlled by existing US law. As such, they cannot be undone by an Executive Order, and the law(s) as it currently exists, do not allow for such asylum to virtually all of these immigrants, nor does it outlaw for an expedited permanent residency process (short of asylum).

I suppose it's possible something could be slipped into some omnibus budget bill, or other huge piece of legislation that would amend the existing law. That would be somewhat unlikely, but not altogether impossible.

10 posted on 06/29/2010 5:24:13 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If enough oil spills in the gulf they will be able to ride in buses from Mexico to Florida. ;-)


11 posted on 06/29/2010 5:26:03 PM PDT by Dem Guard (Throw the trash out on November 2nd!)
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"f Obama tries this by an Executive Order, the EO could be rejected by the Senate and overridden."

Well, in the interest of accuracy, that's not entirely correct. The branch of government most likely to intervene would be the Judiciary, who still maintains judicial review of (almost) all Executive Orders. Executive Orders cannot make new law if that power wasn't ceded to the President in previously passed legislation, nor can an Executive Order set-aside existing law.

For Congress to undo an Executive Order, both houses would have to pass legislation, and assuming the legislation was vetoed by the President, they'd have to override that veto like any other veto, 2/3rds majority in each house.

12 posted on 06/29/2010 5:28:47 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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Can’t wait to get my quota of those bastards.


13 posted on 06/29/2010 5:35:13 PM PDT by Renegade ("Bring it on while I still don't need glasses to shoot your eye out ")
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To: OldDeckHand

This is a relief to know.

However, how do you know all this stuff? I’m amazed.


14 posted on 06/29/2010 5:35:22 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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If history gives us any guide, leftists do not care about the finer points of the law. The question becomes, Could he get away with it?


15 posted on 06/29/2010 5:35:22 PM PDT by marktwain
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"However, how do you know all this stuff?"

I didn't "know it" until it came up last week and I took the time over the weekend to read the relevant statutes. Like so many other people, I just wasn't sure.

16 posted on 06/29/2010 5:37:26 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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where Federal Judge Stephen C. Robinson has ruled that in Port Chester, N.Y., each Hispanic resident can have six votes, but non-Hispanics can only have one vote?

The suit DID NOT give Hispanics six votes and everybody else one. It gave EVERYBODY six votes, which they could plump for one candidate or divide amongst up to six candidates. IN other words, "cumulative voting" as practiced in some corporations, and for the Illinois legislature, prior to the 1970s.

17 posted on 06/29/2010 5:38:09 PM PDT by BohDaThone
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"Could he get away with it?"

He screwed that pooch when he insulted the Supreme Court, in person and on national television. Presidential Executive Orders have only been struck down by the Supreme Court twice in the previous 235 years of the Republic. I'm positive this would be number three.

Keep in mind, however, he could still pardon them. Pardons are viewed as an absolute power of the President, not subject to review. Once they're pardoned, that's it. They can no longer be prosecuted, but they can still be deported.

18 posted on 06/29/2010 5:40:52 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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No, I think that's when we meet his new “Civilian National Security Force” which was put together for just such an occasion.

As Former Army special forces .. I welcome this meeting!

19 posted on 06/29/2010 5:44:13 PM PDT by plinyelder ("I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: BohDaThone

Maybe a good idea or maybe not, but wasn’t six for some and one for others.


20 posted on 06/29/2010 5:45:58 PM PDT by BohDaThone
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