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McCain Did the Same Thing As McChrsytal
NBC ^ | June 27, 2010 | Meet the Press

Posted on 06/27/2010 11:57:18 PM PDT by Brown Deer

MR. GREGORY: Did the president do the right thing?

SEN. McCAIN: Yes, he did, and he took the appropriate steps, in my view. I would like to say, in General McChrystal's behalf, that he played a key role in Iraq in the efforts against al-Qaeda. A lot of this is not known and will--may never be known. But General McChrystal did a great job there. The president took appropriate action, and we wish General McChrystal well in the future.

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SEN. McCAIN: First of all, there's no excuse for it, OK? There's no excuse for it. But part of it, some of it was frustration. Part of it was a group of officers who find themselves with a night off which they did not expect, having been working 24/7 in Kabul. They went out in a social environment. And I must tell you that as a young Navy pilot that on occasion at happy hour some things were said about our commanding officer that maybe we wouldn't want to be held responsible for. But that does not excuse anything. But it certainly maybe understands the--makes people understand the circumstances a little better. But, overall, you just, you just can't do those things, and we expect our officer corps to have the maturity to realize that.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: mccain; mccaintruthfile; mchrystal; meetthepress; obama
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McCain admits he did the same thing as McChrystal, but that's no excuse.
1 posted on 06/27/2010 11:57:25 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: Brown Deer

FUJM!


3 posted on 06/28/2010 12:07:27 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: F15Eagle

WAKE UP AMERICA




4 posted on 06/28/2010 12:14:39 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Brown Deer

Well there is actually a big difference. John McCain is a Senator, and holds no current military position. McChrystal is a general. If you are in the military, you aren’t exactly as free to say what you want, especially about a senior officer. McCain say the dumbest things imaginable, and it amounts to nothing. Not the same for someone in the military, whether a private or a general.


6 posted on 06/28/2010 12:30:22 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Brown Deer

Discretion in front of the press was his point.


7 posted on 06/28/2010 12:32:42 AM PDT by des
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To: nickcarraway
Well there is actually a big difference. John McCain is a Senator, and holds no current military position.

Really, what's the difference? John McCain was a U.S. Naval officer at the time he made his comments about his senior officers.

Are you saying that this will not matter anymore in a few years when McChrystal retires?

btw, McChrystal did not make any comments about a senior officer, unlike McCain.
8 posted on 06/28/2010 12:56:15 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: F15Eagle
I think you are thinking exactly my own sentiments.

I can fantasize what would have been said to Zer0's face if McChrystal could have been summoned instead to a Beer Summit. I could imagine the salty language and an arm wrestling match. Zer0 would have learned more than what was written in anyRolling Stone Magazine. For a president who is mostly learning on the job, this would have been a time of frank talk and a teaching moment from one of his best generals.

Too bad that Zer0 is just Zer0, Zip, Nada. The only thing he will ever learn is what was drilled into him from his communist mentors from his earliest years. Too bad that this country's greatness hangs on the outcome of a wrestling match between Rolling Stone Magazine and a Beer Summit.

9 posted on 06/28/2010 1:28:17 AM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: nickcarraway

Now the Gen was totally crazy to trust any reporter. We all know that.

Make no mistake that in war/combat zone some ripe words are said. Officers are often four letters as I still like a few Ret NCO’s to call me whatever they want. Humor is needed in a combat area. There is not a man who ever served in combat who cannot recall some funny events that were a riot then.


10 posted on 06/28/2010 2:54:45 AM PDT by Lumper20
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"...young Navy pilot that on occasion at happy hour..."

Fact: John Sidney McCain has lost more combat aircraft than any other United States Senator.

Conclusion: He was a lousy aviator.
11 posted on 06/28/2010 3:38:48 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Lumper20

McCrystal is a liberal who voted for OBOZO and probably felt safe with a Rolling Stone reporter.


12 posted on 06/28/2010 3:43:57 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: newfreep

Bingo.

He threw out Yon because Yon is the most knowledgeable mil reporter, because McCrystal and company wanted a uneducated, ignorant reporter from a fluff magazine more noted for it’s glossy covers and photos......and kept the Rolling Stones reporter around for weeks!

What a maroon.


13 posted on 06/28/2010 4:13:56 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: mkjessup

And husband, student and Senator.

So, he’s consistent.


14 posted on 06/28/2010 4:15:13 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: Brown Deer

If McCain’s comments were broadcast outside of that barroom, you better believe he would be reprimanded. The further and wider the broadcast, the more he would have been reprimanded.

It’s never ok to trash your superior while you wear the uniform, but the bigger and wider the audience, the more you will be held accountable. And the higher your rank, the more you will be held accountable.

A couple of privates complaining outloud to each other about their seargent while cleaning the latrines will be told to shut up and get back to work.

The seargent moaning about his captain in the bar will be called in and asked if he remembers the military code.

The general who consistantly complains about his superiors in front of an imbedded reporter for an entertainment magazine will be removed from his position.

It’s that simple.


15 posted on 06/28/2010 4:17:22 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: mkjessup
Fact: John Sidney McCain has lost more combat aircraft than any other United States Senator.
Conclusion: He was a lousy aviator.
Question:
Who held the major league record for the most home runs given up as a pitcher until this year?
Answer:
Robin Roberts, ace of the Phillies' staff in the 1950s, elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1976. (Recently departed, RIP).
Roberts' record for home runs allowed can largely be attributed to his durability and his tendency to pitch inside the strike zone. Roberts threw 4688 innings over the course of his 19-year career, good for 21st on the all-time innings pitched list. Moreover, Roberts challenged hitters to put the ball in play, issuing relatively few walks (1.7 per 9 innings pitched) and strikeouts (4.5 per 9 innings pitched).

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16 posted on 06/28/2010 4:19:36 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ( DRAFT PALIN)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

I do not see the relevance.


17 posted on 06/28/2010 4:34:21 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
The general who consistantly complains about his superiors in front of an imbedded reporter for an entertainment magazine will be removed from his position.

Did you read the article? If so, show me the quotes from McChrystal about Obama. I can't find one.

18 posted on 06/28/2010 4:35:47 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: raybbr

So the only superior Obama had was Obama?


19 posted on 06/28/2010 4:39:42 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius; raybbr

Way too early in the morning for me. Let me try that again.

So the only superior McChrystal had was Obama?


20 posted on 06/28/2010 4:41:04 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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