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MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan Urges Homeowners to Stop Paying Mortgages As a Leftist Protest
NewsBusters ^ | 06/27/10 | Tim Graham

Posted on 06/27/2010 7:00:44 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I’ll call his b.s.

It makes more sense for the producers and people with jobs to greatly reduce all unneccesary spending during any ‘rat administration, in any ‘rat state, in any ‘rat supporting business and any ‘rat supporting media. The useful idiots will always spend. Slow down/retard any and all spending when socialists are in power. “It’s the economy stupid”. They’ve clobbered the productive enough (going back several decades) economically.

When you get capitalist-friendly, small business-friendly, individual-rights friendly, property-rights friendly administrations in power...turn on the spending spigot a bit.

The useful idiots will always spend. Stop feeding the progressive/socialist/collectivist beast in power. It’s war against a domestic enemy.


41 posted on 06/27/2010 8:54:31 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
" [...] and it is not immoral to walk away from a business deal unless you went in to the deal with the intention of defaulting."

Un. Freaking. Believable.

And a bad sign. That's the threshold for criminality; it describes mens rea as the criminal law knows it.

Someone who thinks that something is morally right if not criminalized, is likely to think that something should be criminalized if morally wrong.

42 posted on 06/27/2010 9:13:54 PM PDT by danielmryan
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To: Daisyjane69
People who blindly follow his advice without consulting an attorney will need a co-signer in the future in order to buy a George Foreman Grill.

That's a great line.

43 posted on 06/27/2010 9:21:25 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: dr_who
"I would insist on enforcing the “sanity clause” instead. But then again, there ain’t no sanity clause. Betcha Ratigan doesn’t know that, though."

Where's Groucho when we need him? Imagine the fun he'd have had spoofing the Chicago Way . . .

44 posted on 06/27/2010 9:23:57 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Ratigan won't walk away from his mortgage but wants the rest of the lemmings to walk away from theirs in order to prove his point.

Sounds like a terrorist leader who sends brainwashed radical “martyrs” to die for his beliefs but he stays safely far away from the action.

45 posted on 06/27/2010 9:24:26 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Obama, the Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers)
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To: woweeitsme
It amazes me how many home-buyers were tied down with guns to their heads to buy houses that they couldn’t possibly afford.

It’s gotta be the bank’s fault!

Were ya sleeping when D.C. forced the American people to bail out the banks, Wall Street and fat corps to the tune of trillions?

Ya forget about that wowee?

46 posted on 06/27/2010 9:27:57 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
He's a low-rent STOOGE who will pontificate on what ever they tell him to beat his gums about.

When it comes to Ratigan.. "move along, nothing to see here", really DOES apply.

47 posted on 06/27/2010 9:39:17 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Think free or die

Chico probably knew a little more about the Chicago way than Groucho did.


48 posted on 06/27/2010 9:44:02 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: ully2

nobody forced anyone to run out an spend obscene money on a flipper or a condo or a vacation home...


49 posted on 06/27/2010 9:45:22 PM PDT by cherry
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Liberals cannot understand this is a ploy for the government to own everything and micro-manage everything we do.


50 posted on 06/27/2010 10:42:08 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somwhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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You mean Obama won’t pay for a tent?


51 posted on 06/27/2010 11:08:59 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: dr_who

Prob’ly so!


52 posted on 06/28/2010 12:39:21 AM PDT by Think free or die
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
There's a good number of people on FR that say the same thing.

We had major wars over this issue on other threads not very long ago where I was called a lot of names for saying it was immoral to walk away by choice in a “strategic default”.

53 posted on 06/28/2010 1:09:53 AM PDT by DB
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Well, I’m not one of them, DB. I was appalled by the number of people who said that on a conservative forum!

Everyone agrees, if you cannot make your payments, after you have cut back on phones, cars, computers, gadgets, clothes, vacations, then you have to do what you must. You cannot get blood from a stone.

But just walking away because it is “to your financial advantage is immoral.

I am on your side. I was depressed to see so many embrace that. It boils down to moral rot. If it is okay to walk out on your obligation for something you legally put your signature on paper for, then where do you stop?

Is it okay to stiff the guy who painted your house because it is more important to vacation in the Caribbean?

Or to not pay your dentist because you want to buy a new computer instead?

How would those people feel if their employer didn’t pay them because they thought the money would be better spent on something else?

This mindset some people have baffles me.


54 posted on 06/28/2010 2:48:36 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Daisyjane69
First off, what he fails to mention is that, depending on which state you are in (recourse or non-recourse loan) these banks can hunt you down for the balance to your dying day. Whether you are living in the home or not!

You are absolutely correct.

There was a story 2 weeks ago, in the NY Slimes of all places, that exposed these "debt consolidating and debt forgive" scam companies.

They probably advertise right on your own radio stations (the same ones that bring you Rush Limbaugh and other talk show hosts).

People will pay these companies thousands of dollars, in hopes of getting their massive, irresponsible debt "resolved." What they don't tell you is, often times the credit card companies, banks, or other debt collecting agency will simply sue you. Then, you have a MUCH bigger problem. They are not just going to say "Well, so and so called on their behalf, so.....what the hell? That $55,000 you owe us in credit card debt is forgiven!"

Moreover, the bible tell us to pay our debts.

Proverbs 22:7, Psalm 37:21, Ecclesiastes 5:4

55 posted on 06/28/2010 3:42:02 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: rlmorel
This mindset some people have baffles me.

It shouldn't. They are just thieves and connivers...

56 posted on 06/28/2010 3:50:00 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: DB

Contracts work with two parties.

No pay, no house.

Forget this nutjob because he is advocating no pay and keep house.

The banks undertook the risk the collateral would not decrease. This is true even under 20% or 10% down loans. (the borrower had enough equity to cover any decrease in value.)

Also keep in mind until the end of 2012 the deficiency is not taxable as income.

That is assuming the buyer makes the bank live up to the contract of house or payments.

This left wing buffon does not understand business or contracts.

oh, and lets not forget the truth in lending violations. However, those are very specific and do not fall into the left wing rant of “greedy banks did it”.


57 posted on 06/28/2010 10:00:28 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

What so many don’t seem to understand is, just because some of the penalties/remedies of failing to meet your contractual obligations are spelled out in a mortgage contract it does not mean that these remedies are simply an “option” to get out of the contract while at the same time supposedly honoring the contract. Not paying is a breach of contract where you are in fact breaking the contract you agreed to - not paying and the resulting foreclosure are not simply an option of the contract - it is a result of the borrower breaching the contract.


58 posted on 06/28/2010 10:35:37 AM PDT by DB
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Thanks KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle.
Dylan Ratigan took to the ramparts of The Huffington Post
The bankers should just have a hit man on their payroll.

So, what's Sheryl Crow's opinion about Dylan Ratigan?
59 posted on 06/28/2010 3:07:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: DB

The problem with the home crisis is that we have a unique situation of banks requiring thir own “special” appraisers. Home mortgages are not just a simple contract, they are very regulated with specific legal requirements to ensure standardization in recording. (beats the old branch of a tree and clump of dirt exchange.)

Banks have traditionally counted on a “free pass” in forclosure actions because homeowners rarely fought back or attempted to enforced their rights under the law. (banks have to use original notes, use impartial appraisers, properly disclose costs, etc....)


60 posted on 06/28/2010 8:18:16 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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