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To: doodad

Most of you commenting don’t know jack squat about this case or the evidence. The cop made a mistake, the trial evidence is very clear in that regard.

Grant was a violent mug who put himself in the situation that led to his death. He was combative and resisting. The evidence is very clear about this regardless of what you think you saw in the videos.

His violent mug buddies helped create the atmosphere on that train platform that forced the cops into hyper mode.

Yes, Mehserle will beat the Murder 1 charge and Oakland will burn. You can blame the prosecution for that.


25 posted on 06/25/2010 1:40:39 PM PDT by telebob
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To: telebob

I simply said that admitting on the stand that you thought you were pulling a taser not a firearm smacks of stupid. I would have counciled him to reiterate the struggle and confusion and fear that the perp had a gun.

Have not seen the video and don’t know the case.


26 posted on 06/25/2010 1:44:35 PM PDT by doodad
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To: telebob
Oh, gee, some one is protecting his own...

You might consider, when your Lord Obama starts to crack down on dissidents, who is going to be out there in public, trying to enforce his edicts.

Something that is left out of most histories of the Holocaust is that the membership of the Einzatztgruppen were recruited from police departments...

28 posted on 06/25/2010 1:51:21 PM PDT by jonascord (We've got the Constitution to protect us. Why should we worry?)
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To: telebob
” He was combative and resisting. The evidence is very clear about this regardless of what you think you saw in the videos.”

Yeah, who you gonna believe, the cop under oath, or your lying eyes.

33 posted on 06/25/2010 2:09:23 PM PDT by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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To: telebob
Most of you commenting don’t know jack squat about this case or the evidence. The cop made a mistake, the trial evidence is very clear in that regard.

If you think the idiot "made a mistake" then you are clearly the ignorant one here. Typical boot-licker though.
34 posted on 06/25/2010 2:09:58 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: telebob

There’s always been a Libertarian contingent on FR that has the adolescent propensity to pile on any LE (or weed) story, jump up and down and say “Cops are all Nazis”. And anyone who points out that their arguments are preposterous is a “statist”.

But over the past year or so, it seems that they’re even stupider, and louder, and more frothing at the mouth than I can recall from past years. I kind of wonder what’s up with that.

Paulians infiltrating FR? Misdirected animus after a year and a half of the 0 administration? Public schools?

“Enquiring minds want to know”


40 posted on 06/25/2010 2:56:39 PM PDT by absalom01 (Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: telebob
Cops need to be held to a higher standard then the rest of the public. An accident doesn't negate his criminal responsibility. He should be imprisoned for life.

His story about drawing the wrong weapon is a lie contrived by his defense attorney. The video shows he had his taser out, put it away, drew his pistol and murdered the handcuffed man.

You say the victim was a gang member. Unless that gang member had shot an unarmed, helpless person in the back while they were on the ground then the gang member is still a better person than the murdering cop.

Do you think he would even be on trial if someone hadn't been videotaping the murder? I think the rest of the officers would have covered it up, as usual.

42 posted on 06/25/2010 3:40:20 PM PDT by Dayman
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To: telebob

Normally I consider my FR friends to be a cut above in all regards, but the blood-lust shown in this thread really has me scratching my head.

My late father-in-law was a career Oakland cop, retiring as a Captain. His run-ins included the Hells Angels under Sonny Barger, the Black Panthers, and even the SLA. He was no stranger to ghetto violence in Oakland, and the thugs who preyed on the innocent. A proud father of four kids, he was one of the kindest gentlemen I ever knew.

I remember another high profile case involving a gentleman named Rodney King, where a tightly edited news clip was looped repeatedly on TV, until Los Angeles was in flames. This is somewhat of an oversimplification, the PC verdict of of police brutality was finally reached after TWO trials (double jeopardy?) and South Central was in cinders.

Of course, the clip the MSM presented left out a combative Mr. King, refusing to submit, high on PCP most likely, and not slowing his attack on the police in spite of pepper spray and tasers. They finally got pissed off and clubbed the guy until he yielded. But this bit of vital info was left out, just the clubbing of a black man by white cops was shown. Repeatedly. Again and again. Until the MSM got what they wanted.

Having been held up at gunpoint three times by young East Bay black thugs, who felt they were entitled to all they could get by force, I can certainly understand how the Grant shooting could go down when confronting an out of control gang of thugs.

I’m appalled by those here who want to lynch Mehserle BEFORE the facts are presented and the verdict is in. I thought we were above these kinds of reactionary posts on insufficient evidence. Guess I was wrong.


57 posted on 06/25/2010 11:11:47 PM PDT by Tigerized (pursuingliberty.com)
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