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Immigrants To Unemployed: 'Come On, Take Our Jobs' (ONE FOR MICHAEL SAVAGE ...)
IMPO Insider ^ | June 25, 2010 | Juliana Barbassa, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 06/25/2010 10:13:56 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

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To: bigfootbob

I sincerely beg to differ! But then maybe mine ARE some of those exceptions...
When my son was a wrtstler, his coach offered the team a way to earn thier way to wrestling camp...By working in his fields along with the Latinos.
Three, of seven, including my son, were offered to return to work after camp.
The big guy told my son that he had good news and bad news.
The good news was that the Latinos liked him, the bad news was that he could work the rest of the summer.
His brother was recruited to come back to Alaska for the summer. Originally, this one hitched a ride up there with a trucker that was doing moving and landed a good job because he know HOW to work. Daughter has 6 kids and never had a mortgage-they built their own home and now do remodeling. My grandkids go to work with parents when at all possible and they know how to work too.


161 posted on 06/25/2010 6:55:41 PM PDT by bog trotter
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To: Chi-townChief

I’m late to this party- I’ve been outside doing stuff, still have chores to do.

We still put up square bales around here, mostly for horse owners now but alfalfa squares were a big deal for dairies even 10 years ago. Across the river in MO most of my friends set, cut and hung tobacco in their youth.
My cousins in Iowa detassled seed corn in the summer for spending money.

As many have said, it builds character, teaches young people what a dollar is really worth, and helps you understand how we all eat.

Does anyone want to do farm labor day in, day out all their life? Most don’t...., maybe they’ll pay attention in class next fall a little more.

Americans can do this work; how the hell else did this country get settled? Weren’t no slaves here in the Free State.


162 posted on 06/25/2010 7:09:23 PM PDT by One Name
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To: TokuMei

>>Why was the Cotton Gin invented? Because a war was fought over whether slavery was legal or not —the answer was no.

The cotton gin was invented long before the Civil War and it actually made slavery more economically viable by automating the separation process. You still had to pick the cotton by hand and that was the slaves’ job.


163 posted on 06/25/2010 7:22:14 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Obama is like a rocket scientist....who's trying to do brain surgery with a hammer.)
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To: Mr. K

Here’s what I think...

They think americans are lazy....whatever...yea some are..

But...Americans haven’t had to do the manual labor as much in the past 20 years because the American society has gotten more educated and that has brought more jobs to use your brains instead of your hands...

ALMOST EVERYONE from a 3rd world crap hole like mexico is used to manual labor....BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE....

so I’m gonna be impressed with Mexicans dogging us b/c we are “lazy”....NEWSFLASH...start getting educated ya little bean eaters and YOU won’t have to work so hard.


164 posted on 06/25/2010 7:43:46 PM PDT by DrewsMum (Somebody please put the Constitution on his teleprompter....)
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To: Chi-townChief
OK then why only farm workers? In the NE area it's construction jobs that have been taken by illegals. Make that same offer to construction workers displaced by illegals. It won't happen because they'd have to pay middle class wages and follow health and safety guidelines.

Let's be honest, when any profession becomes overrun with cheap labor both wages and working conditions decline.

I hated it when Bush used to use the phrase "Jobs Americans won't do..." and I despise the Bamster when he gives it a whole racial angle.

165 posted on 06/25/2010 8:09:12 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: DTogo
Imagines if there were ~550 Americans willing to be a Congressman/Senator for no wages/perks and actually read legislation and consider their constituents before voting. And current politicians had to compete with the people for their own jobs... fair??

I would so love to hear someone put up your premise to some of these congressional windbags at a town hall meeting. Excellent analogy.

166 posted on 06/25/2010 8:12:49 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: rogue yam
The employers and applicants negotiate a wage they can both accept and work commences.

Funny how the fascist demoRATs in congress ignore that. The problem w/illegal messycans working in the states is that they work for near slave wages. That's the problem.

If we'd deport their sorry butts, then wages would rise to realistic levels.

167 posted on 06/25/2010 8:15:57 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: xzins

When I was a kid there was a local farmer who grew some peas. We would go pick peas for some candy money. If we got that far. Usually blew it all at the taco wagon. Anyway, the farmer paid by the pounds picked.


168 posted on 06/25/2010 8:16:22 PM PDT by bigheadfred (I said free association. Not freely associate.)
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To: Chi-townChief
It's not that Americans won't do those jobs it's just that Americans aren't accustomed to having to live 2 or more families in a 2 bd rm shack because of the sub-standard wage offered to do the work.

We all understand Obama and Soros is trying to fix that kind of American wrong headedness but we just aren't there yet...maybe next year.

169 posted on 06/25/2010 8:19:30 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Magic Fingers
Let this hard-working white American be the first to say “up yours”.

AMEN. I've been out looking for almost 2 months now. I've even gone to drywall contractors and office cleaning companies. These are jobs typically done by illegals around these parts. I don't even get a callback. I'm more than willing to work under the table but no go. The only reason I can think of is that as an American these contractors know they can't BS me as easily as someone here illegally, and they know that if things are dangerous or unhealthy there's a chance I'll report it.

ECON 101 - Wages and conditions will sink to the lowest level the market will bear.

170 posted on 06/25/2010 8:25:47 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: Chi-townChief
Where is it written that farmworkers from Mexico or elsewhere have to be here illegal?

The Oakies came here to Califonia picking fruit, working the fields long before the Mexicans did.

We used to have labor camps here. Hardly anything like a "camp". There was housing, schools, daycare, playgrounds, laundry facilities and meeting halls...even gated (out, not in).

I'm not Mexican, I worked for a farmer and in the fields as a young man.

171 posted on 06/25/2010 8:33:18 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: YankeeReb
Glad you enjoyed it, why not?

"Sorry Senator, your state has decided to have Joe Smith fill your position until further notice. If something changes, we ... might let you know."

172 posted on 06/25/2010 8:49:51 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: bigheadfred

We had lots of folks in N Ohio who would pick berries in season. Some were Hispanic and many weren’t.

By the flat makes sense if the price is right. If it isn’t, then folks won’t do it.

That’s why illegals are so wrong. Anyone working for slave wages distorts a free market and wrong-sets a price on a commodity.


173 posted on 06/25/2010 9:55:19 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: bog trotter

Are you a liberal? I’m sure not. Go back and read what I said in this thread. Good job! Wish everyone raised their kids the same.


174 posted on 06/25/2010 10:43:13 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: delapaz
Oh yes, all of these jobs can be automated. If we can automate cotton picking, we can automate whatever this is...

Cotton is not that easy to damage, compared to strawberries. But it would be an interesting project, technically. I'd build a robot with very soft fingers and a good vision. The robot would be moving between rows, looking for berries of proper coloration and carefully picking them, then storing in a tray. Perhaps it would be based on this hand.

Sure the machine would be expensive - say, $100K. However consider that it would be picking all ripe berries from a single strawberry plant in just a few seconds, and it doesn't need to rest; it can work 24/7, as long as there is a light source for cameras to see in color. If the farmer's option is, for example, to hire 30 workers for 10 hours, for $10/hr to work one field, that amounts to $3K per field per day. It's comparable to the cost of the machine, especially if a single robot can do all your picking, day after day, as new berries are getting ready. With human labor you need to pay again and again; with a robot you pay once and it keeps working for you.

175 posted on 06/25/2010 11:45:19 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: TokuMei

Eli Whitney got his first patent on his invention-the cotton gin in 1794. To which war were you referring?

Also, no cotton gin ever made has ever picked a single strand of cotton. A “gin” only removes the seeds inside the cotton bolls.


176 posted on 06/26/2010 3:36:06 AM PDT by snuffy smiff (imagine if the GOP grew a brain-and threw all RINOs OUT! But that would also require a spine *sigh*)
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To: Chi-townChief

When I was a “young white” I did seasonal work on a farm picking fruit etc...

I picked apples on one farm and and graded and tied tobacco on another...


177 posted on 06/26/2010 4:11:59 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: TheLurkerX

Peaches were always the worst! Back when I was a kid they had LOTS more fuzz on them than they do now. And apparently I was allergic to it! It caused me to itch 100 times worse than any fiberglass or rock wool. Still, picking peaches beats picking butterbeans-have to bend way down to get to them! And yes-okra sucks!


178 posted on 06/26/2010 4:17:52 AM PDT by snuffy smiff (imagine if the GOP grew a brain-and threw all RINOs OUT! But that would also require a spine *sigh*)
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To: dragnet2

Oh now you convinced me. Guess you must be one of those disenfranchised Americans who can’t make it and needs someone to blame.


179 posted on 06/26/2010 4:52:33 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Can those jobs be mechanized?


180 posted on 06/26/2010 7:52:57 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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