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Gillard takes power in bloodless coup (Australia to have a new Prime Minister - official)
Australian Broadcasting Corporation ^ | 24th June 2010 | Emma Rodgers

Posted on 06/23/2010 4:44:59 PM PDT by naturalman1975

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To: ExSoldier

What you have heard is nonsense.

Some people seem to like making up stories about Australia’s laws that people then believe.

I’m as gun owner myself - and there are well over 1,000,000 firearms in private hands in Australia.

The laws aren’t perfect - we have universal registration and licencing - but they’re nowhere near as bad as people claim.

I doubt she’ll seek to make any changes, but I don’t know - unlike the US, gun laws don’t attract that much attention in Australian politics, and so generally you don’t what a politician thinks about them.


21 posted on 06/23/2010 7:27:19 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Red in the head like a .....


22 posted on 06/23/2010 7:29:53 PM PDT by llevrok (Today, I am a stranger in the country I was born and raised.)
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To: naturalman1975

Will this lead to new elections?

Does the other side have any good candidates?


23 posted on 06/23/2010 7:41:32 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: naturalman1975

Julia Gillard: Leftwing opportunist

http://australianconservative.com/2010/06/julia-gillard-left-wing-opportunist/


24 posted on 06/23/2010 7:44:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: GeronL
Will this lead to new elections?

Not automatically but an election is due later this year (early next year at the latest, but that is unlikely).

Does the other side have any good candidates?

The Liberal Party leader, and Leader of the Opposition is Tony Abbott, a genuine conservative, and an excellent candidate in my opinion.

25 posted on 06/23/2010 7:47:35 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

>>>>”So the Queen of Australia, the Governor General of Australia, and the Prime Minister of Australia are now all sheilas!”

lol! A few minutes ago I was thinking exactly the same thing. Must be a hat trick for the “sheilas”!

BTW, what a bizarre title: “Gillard takes power in bloodless coup” ! Were they expecting something similar to Iran or kyrgystan in Australia?!! However, metaphorically & politically it must have been a bit bloody... for Kevin Rudd!

On a serious note, I just finished watching Gillard’s first speech and Q & A session with the media. I think she has a professional/good track record and is quite articulate. I am not an ALP supporter or voter, but I don’t think Gillard can afford to implement any far left policies, regardless of her ideological background which you rightly pointed out.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see how matters develop in coming months before an election is called. After all it is the public vote/choice that really counts, and as they say, even 24 hrs can be a long time in politics.


26 posted on 06/23/2010 8:34:16 PM PDT by odds
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To: odds

“see how matters develop in coming months before an election is called.”

On what basis do they call an election? Is there a certain time frame?


27 posted on 06/23/2010 8:49:19 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Illegal immigration is destroying America, look what it's done to the White House)
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To: RegulatorCountry
So, has public sentiment veered as hard to the left as this would indicate, or is this a short term peculiarity of the leadership as currently aligned? How likely is this to be “corrected” via elections, in other words?

I don't think there is anything like conservatism in Australia at the moment.

The conservatives (called the Liberal Party) are just as bad – they just proposed a Parental Leave policy of up to $75,000 (about $60,000 US) for 6 mths leave from work after having a baby, paid for by a 1.7% corporate tax on big businesses, redistributed by the government to individuals based on their earnings.

Currently Australia doesn't have a national parental scheme, so this is a BIG step. And at $75,000 for 6mths (ave earnings in Australia would be $50,000 or so) ... a huge middle class welfare entitlement. Australia has been doing exceedingly well economically due a long period of structural reform in the late '80s and in the 90s, plus a mining boom, and all political parties are now in a race to the bottom in promising new or extended entitlements, more and more regulations and bigger government.

Whether it is Gillard now in place of Rudd, or Abbott as the conservative leader on the other in the coming election, it won't change the current trajectory of Australia.

28 posted on 06/23/2010 9:06:27 PM PDT by militanttoby
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To: naturalman1975

Thanks for the post/analysis. Very interesting.

(from my very limited knowledge it seemed like Rudd had moved slightly to the right after being elected)


29 posted on 06/23/2010 9:08:06 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Rennes Templar

“A national general election must be held within three years of the first meeting of a new federal parliament. The average life of parliaments is about two-and-a-half years. In practice, general elections are held when the Governor-General (who is the Queen’s representative in Australia) agrees to a request from the Prime Minister, who selects the date of the election.”

If interested in other details of the Australian System of Government, take a look here:

http://www.dfat.gov.au/facts/sys_gov.html


30 posted on 06/23/2010 9:10:18 PM PDT by odds
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To: Rennes Templar
On what basis do they call an election? Is there a certain time frame?

It must be called within 3 years and some months of the first sitting of the existing Parliment. And can be done so if the Prime Minister can convince the Goverenor General there is reason. The PM normally would have considerable latitude, but there is also a restriction that it should not ne called if a half-Senate (which is a fixed 6 year term) could be called within (i think 6) months. The Senate election cannot be more than 1 year before the new Senators will take their seats (in this case July 2011)

So the first requirement says before April 2011, The second says after July 2010. Complicating this are State elections being held in New Soth Wales and Queensland at fixed times bwteen those dates, and those Labor governments will not want the Federal Elections held at the same time for voters unhappy with Federal Labor will take it out on them as well.

This cuts it to a narrow window next year, or a reasonably broad one this year. The plan was for it to be after the Obama visit while Kruddy was still shining with reflected glory.

That's out now. So best guess is long enough for the voters to forget about Krudd, not long enough to learn about Julia. Probably September.

31 posted on 06/23/2010 9:29:55 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (a 16 year old Australian girl already did it. And she did it right. - WWJD)
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To: naturalman1975

From a box jellyfish, to a salt water croc.


32 posted on 06/23/2010 10:44:05 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Oztrich Boy; Rennes Templar

I wish we in Australia had a more definitive month/time for a General National Federal election, regardless of a given PM or a political party, or under special circumstances (e.g. a Double Dissolution). Within 3 yrs is standard requirement after the 1st sitting of a new/existing federal Parliament.

In this case, for a National General Election, my bet is close to yours Oztrich Boy, but my bet is slightly moved forward to October or early November 2010 - we’ll see.


33 posted on 06/24/2010 3:11:33 AM PDT by odds
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To: odds

forward = delayed


34 posted on 06/24/2010 3:14:05 AM PDT by odds
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To: naturalman1975

Really. The NRA has made a pretty decent movie, available on youtube, that shows the extent of the Australian gun confiscations. You folks are not legally able to buy something as simple as an M1 Carbine or have a .45 for home defense; that’s pretty limited.


35 posted on 06/24/2010 5:53:49 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: MSF BU
These are the three main guns I own.

Personally, I feel pretty comfortable within Australian limits.

36 posted on 06/24/2010 6:02:46 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: MSF BU
You also might find this website interesting.

Adelaide Gun Shop.

It's amazing how many gun shops Australia has for a country that has supposedly banned guns.

37 posted on 06/24/2010 6:10:18 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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Move along...Move along, people!

Nothing to see here.

A Leftard w**** is changed for a Leftard w****.


38 posted on 06/24/2010 6:12:31 AM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: naturalman1975

Voters have decisively rejected the Labour Party’s mining tax, as well as their cap and trade scam. Sacking their own Prime Minister will re-shuffle the deck chairs a bit, but the Labour Party is likely toast. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a new general election called within 12 months, and Tony Abbott will be the new PM - a true conservative.


39 posted on 06/24/2010 9:27:40 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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But the downside is that powerbrokers can influence the decision:

You think they don't here? May I present to you, Mr. George Soros.

40 posted on 06/24/2010 10:26:03 AM PDT by nina0113
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