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Rudd's backers concede defeat (if so, Australia will have a new Prime Minister today)
Australian Broadcasting Corporation ^ | 24th June 2010 | Chris Uhlmann

Posted on 06/23/2010 4:04:40 PM PDT by naturalman1975

ulia Gillard is inching closer to becoming Prime Minister, as number crunchers on both sides agree she will win this morning's leadership ballot against Kevin Rudd.

As the numbers are being frantically counted ahead of the ballot at 9:00am AEST, the ABC understands Ms Gillard has secured more than 70 votes, while Mr Rudd has just 30.

Supporters for Mr Rudd dispute the size of the margin, but have acknowledged that Ms Gillard will take over as Prime Minister.

This morning Ms Gillard's supporters told the ABC there was a push to get Mr Rudd not to contest the vote.

One supporter of Mr Rudd said: "You can't have a show where you have got to look over your shoulder all the time. It's clear where you end up. You end up as New South Wales."

A win for Ms Gillard would install her as Australia's 27th prime minister and its first female leader. She is expected to have Treasurer Wayne Swan as her Deputy Prime Minister.

Senior West Australian MP Gary Gray says he has no trouble supporting Ms Gillard. "From my own personal position, I'll be supporting Julia," he said. "I think Julia will win today."

Frontbencher Craig Emerson says he will be voting for Mr Rudd. "I have a conservative view of these matters. I have always voted for the leader," he said.

Mr Rudd called a late night press conference to announce the spill after a long meeting with Ms Gillard and party elder statesman, John Faulkner, last night.

"It's important I believe, in the interests of the Party and the Government, for these matters to be resolved as a matter of urgency," Mr Rudd said.

The moves against Mr Rudd began several weeks ago when one of Mr Rudd's supporters, New South Wales right powerbroker Mark Arbib, approached his Victorian counterpart David Feeney to sound out the possibility of a leadership change.

That was prompted by a series of disastrous polls which showed the Prime Minister's approval plummeting and taking the party's primary vote with it.

Yesterday morning the two powerbrokers met with Ms Gillard. They returned at noon saying that they could guarantee the support of the majority of right wing Caucus members in New South Wales, Victoria, Queensland, South Australia and Western Australia.

They told the Deputy Prime Minister that the party would lose the election if Mr Rudd continued to lead it. They said they believe the party will win under Ms Gillard.

Party sources tell the ABC that Ms Gillard agreed that the party faced electoral annihilation with Mr Rudd at the helm.

As a series of secretive meetings were held around Parliament House the ABC became aware of the moves against the Prime Minister and broke the story on air and online at 7:00pm AEST.

That accelerated events as the conspirators were hoping to finalise their plans without the media catching on. As it played out it became clear that even senior ministers were unaware of the power play.

One Cabinet minister told the ABC: "I am sitting in my office watching all this unfold on TV. I have no part in this and no idea what's going on. This is madness."

Rudd's pitch

Announcing the party room spill, Mr Rudd listed his achievements and unfinished plans.

"I was elected by the people of Australia as Prime Minister of Australia. I was elected to do a job," he said.

"I intend to continue doing that job. I intend to continue doing it to the absolute best of my ability. Part of that job has been to steer this country through the worst economic crisis the world has ever seen in 75 years. I believe the Government has acquitted itself well to that task.

"Part of the reason the Government was elected was to deliver fundamental reforms in the health and hospital system. I believe the Government has acquitted itself well to that task as well.

"Part of what the Government was elected to do was also to deliver fair outcomes for pensioners in Australia, and I believe we've done that well by increasing the pension to the extent that we have.

"These are important reforms; infrastructure, education, health, hospitals, closing the gap with Indigenous Australians, also the apology to the first Australians. As Prime Minister of the country I'm proud of each and every one of these achievements. There is much more to be done and we intend to get on with the job of doing it."

And after weeks of denying the internal disquiet at his leadership style he admitted that he knew some in his ranks were out to get him.

"It's become apparent to me in the course of the last period of time, the last several weeks, that a number of factional leaders within the Labor Party no longer support my leadership," he said.

"That is why it is imperative that this matter be resolved".

"I was elected by the people of Australia to do a job. I was not elected by the factional leaders of the Australian Labor Party to do a job, though they may be seeking to do a job on me, that's a separate matter."

Never popular

Mr Rudd never enjoyed the popular support of his party and his autocratic style has further soured the relationship. His centralisation of decisions and the narrowness of the group of ministers he consulted is being blamed for many of the party's woes.

The feeling against him is visceral.

One powerbroker said: "This crypto-fascist made no effort to build a base in the party. Now that his only faction, Newspoll, has deserted him he is gone."

The collapse in the polls followed hard on the heels of the decision to suspend the Government's push to set up an emissions trading system.

Having declared climate change the greatest moral and ethical challenge of our time, the electorate reacted viciously and polling on both sides showed many voters lost faith in the Prime Minister.

Others in the party say it is the steady flow of asylum seekers that is killing the Government in marginal seats.

Last night Mr Rudd suggested he was not behind those decisions and suggested that, if he was removed, the party would lurch to the right chasing votes.

"I believe it is absolutely wrong for this country and absolutely wrong in terms of the values which we hold dear, to get engaged in some sort of race to the right in this country on the question of asylum seekers, I don't think that's the right thing to do," he said.

"That's the direction the Liberal Party would like to take us, under my leadership we will not be going in that direction.

"Furthermore, can I say this, on the question of emissions trading which you have raised and obviously is a matter of great controversy in the community.

"Let me be very clear. Action on climate change cannot be achieved in the absence of an emissions trading scheme. We need a price on carbon. And that price on carbon needs to be put on it within a reasonable timeframe. That would be the decision of the government, assuming I am re-elected as Prime Minister."

This Prime Minister usually doesn't sleep much. He won't have sleep at all last night.

This is unprecedented. These are historic times. And should he fall today, history will not be kind to Mr Rudd.


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To: naturalman1975

So Rudd didn’t even last a full term. What a loser.

The problem is that he will be succeeded by a left-wing witch. I hope Abbott cleans her clock in the elections later on.


21 posted on 06/23/2010 4:38:39 PM PDT by BCEagles
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To: naturalman1975

Sounds about middle of the road compared to the US. More onerous than Texas or New Mexico, but less onerous than New York or California. Thanks for the education.


22 posted on 06/23/2010 4:55:42 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: naturalman1975

Okay, I’ll ask the 18-year old Ozzie from Sydney currently living with us for clarification...

Regarding knives, he said you couldn’t walk down the street with one. Maybe it’s okay to possess one in one’s house?


23 posted on 06/23/2010 5:10:22 PM PDT by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)
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To: naturalman1975

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D-LmRNdQiQ


24 posted on 06/23/2010 5:10:52 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: CatQuilt

You can’t carry a knife for self defence. You can carry one if you have another reason to carry it.

As very few teenage boys are fishermen, leather workers, or similar, police will tend to assume they don’t have a good reason to be carrying a knife unless they can explain it.

I carry a pocket knife everywhere, and if I am asked why - as I have been once when he pinged a metal detector, I simply say it’s a useful tool that I got used to carrying in the navy and there’s no problem. A teenage boy might not get as easy treatment as I do.


25 posted on 06/23/2010 5:15:44 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: CatQuilt

Teachers, by the way (I am one) will often tell kids it’s not legal to carry a knife, because so many kids are using them in fights and stabbing each other. It’s not strictly true, but the law is complex and trying to get it through to kids isn’t easy.

I’ve just looked up the precise wording.

It is unlawful to carry a knife without reasonable excuse.

What this means is that if you are carrying a knife, you can be asked why, and if your explanation doesn’t match the knife, there could be problems.

A fishing knife - and you’re going fishing - your fine. A fishing knife, and you’ve never fished in your life - problem.

Basic pocket knives are considered tools, and most people have a valid reason to be carrying a tool. But if police find them on a group of kids who are the type they think are likely to get involved in a fight, they are fairly likely to treat it as a weapon.

A lot of Australian law relies on commonsense.


26 posted on 06/23/2010 5:22:50 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975
A lot of Australian law relies on commonsense.

How very refreshing.

What would be the best outcome for your upcoming elections? Friends of our are moving there soon (not easy) and suddenly more interested in the politics of Australia.

27 posted on 06/23/2010 5:41:11 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes
What would be the best outcome for your upcoming elections? Friends of our are moving there soon (not easy) and suddenly more interested in the politics of Australia.

The election of a Liberal/National coalition government with Tony Abbott as Prime Minister.

Australia has three major political parties - Labor, on the left (currently in government), and two conservative parties, the Liberal Party and the National Party - they are very similar in terms of policies, but remain separate in most states because the Liberals are a city based party, and the Nationals are rural, and the Nationals believe a merger would rob country people of representation. Most of the time when they are in government, the Liberal and National parties are in a formal coalition, with the Liberals providing the Prime Minister, and the Nationals the Deputy Prime Minister, and Cabinet containing members of both in rough proportion to their seats in Parliament.

Tony Abbott is a genuine conservative, and the coalition parties range from the centrist to the conservative.

There are other minor parties, which can win a few seats in the Senate, but in terms of overall government they don't really count.

28 posted on 06/23/2010 5:49:56 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975
Some people can carry knives.


29 posted on 06/23/2010 6:01:41 PM PDT by beagleone
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To: naturalman1975

Thank you for your reply. I guess we will be hoping for Tony Abbott. When do the elections take place? Will be paying a lot more attention to all countries elections these days.


30 posted on 06/24/2010 12:26:14 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes

There’s no fixed date for the election. It must be held by 16th April next year at the latest. It will most likely be held later this year.

The 16th of April date is the result of quite a complicated Constitutional formula which sets the maximum life of a Parliament and the maximum time after it expires that a new election must be held. The Prime Minister is allowed to ask for Parliament to be dissolved earlier and virtually always does - two and a half to three years between elections is the norm, and the last election was on 24th November 2010.


31 posted on 06/24/2010 12:31:07 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975
and the last election was on 24th November 2010.

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32 posted on 06/24/2010 2:11:06 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes

Sorry - 24th November 2007.


33 posted on 06/24/2010 2:39:06 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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