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Obama administration hitting a new low.
1 posted on 06/23/2010 8:46:11 AM PDT by Feldkurat_Katz
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Far from my legal specialty area, but I believe a President can grant an unassailable pardon for a prior illegal act, such as entering the US illegally, but he could not grand amnesty or a pardon for a future illegal act, such as being in or remaining the US illegally.

Pardons, yes. Rule by presidential fiat, no.

54 posted on 06/23/2010 11:50:00 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Prezdet Obama is what you get when you let the O.J. jury select a president !)
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I see it as a huge mistake, but who will/can do anything about it? Folks, you need to understand that the only way to stop this is full revolt and I do not think we have anyone on the Left willing to revolt. Even with revolt, what can be done?


58 posted on 06/23/2010 12:08:20 PM PDT by devane617 (VOTE THEM OUT! ALL OF THEM!)
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More illegal aliens helps secure a future communist state for this regime.

Out with them.


61 posted on 06/23/2010 12:15:03 PM PDT by mikhailovich
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Wow. tyranny cometh.


63 posted on 06/23/2010 12:20:17 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To stretch the law in such a way I really believe Obama would deserve to be prosecuted.


64 posted on 06/23/2010 12:25:29 PM PDT by Williams
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Key word in this headline is “fear”. When will these yellow-bellied politicians in the GOP grow a pair. This needs to be headed off at the pass!


65 posted on 06/23/2010 12:28:29 PM PDT by cblue55 (Choose life; abort Obamacare)
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I be POTUS, I be ready to take power and RULE from day one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Nlq80DVpo


71 posted on 06/23/2010 12:42:15 PM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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There’s a catch in this kind of attempted takeover coup by mass amnesty. Mexican immigrants are not that politically motivated and I don’t think more than 20% of them would actually try to register and vote, because of concern that they would identify themselves as illegal immigrants and then they might be deported later if the mass amnesty was overturned (by courts or congress).

So the number of votes lost by the democrats among legal citizens in 2010 would be far more than the votes gained by illegals voting. Therefore a mass amnesty by executive order would very likely backfire disastrously on Obama and lead to a huge number of GOP victories in November. So I think the rumors are probably exaggerated and this kind of stunt isn’t going to happen. Not that this administration wouldn’t want to do this if it would work, but their problem is that it would backfire badly in the first election and lead to GOP control of both the House and the Senate.


81 posted on 06/23/2010 1:06:33 PM PDT by socialism_stinX (He didn't invent fresh brewed coffee, but he perfected the art of sipping it during tennis warm-up.)
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EO's can be overturned by SC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youngstown_Sheet_&_Tube_Co._v._Sawyer

88 posted on 06/23/2010 1:40:21 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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This will cause riots en mass if they do that! Most American’s do NOT support this!


89 posted on 06/23/2010 2:07:05 PM PDT by pollywog ("Under His Wings".........Psalm 91:4)
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18 million new democrat voters by the pResident signing. That is criminal and should
warrant a violent revolution to take our government back from
these
anti-American, socialist, communist wannabes.


90 posted on 06/23/2010 2:20:50 PM PDT by soycd
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I just geard Steve Molsberg talking about it on the radio 10 minutes ago. He was freaking out.


92 posted on 06/23/2010 2:24:06 PM PDT by PMAS
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Presidents may only pardon someone for a crime he has already committed, not for future crimes. That means that if Obama pardons all illegal aliens for the crime of having entered the U.S. illegally, they would still be subject to prosecution the next day for the crime of being in the U.S. illegally on such day, since a pardon would not change immigration laws to make it legal for them to live in the U.S.


96 posted on 06/23/2010 3:31:28 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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a plan that would allow DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano to provide an amnesty if they can't secure enough votes for a bill in the Senate.

Bush tried to shove it down America's throat, against the will of the people...Now the leftist from Chicago that took Bush's place want's the same thing...

No one is surprised by this epic betrayal, nor is anyone surprised that D.C. is operating as a dictatorship.

97 posted on 06/23/2010 3:35:03 PM PDT by dragnet2
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"Obama" has a Lincoln fantasy about himself.

I heard from at least 3 commies today that an amnesty EO would be "just like the Emancipation Proclamation", and I'm sure that's occurred to Barry as well.

99 posted on 06/23/2010 3:42:38 PM PDT by Jim Noble (If the answer is "Republican", it must be a stupid question.)
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The more unpopular he gets, the more voters he needs to alienate in order to satisfy his base, the left. If Obama tried this, he might make some Chavez lovers happy but he’d also doom himself and his party.


103 posted on 06/23/2010 4:10:10 PM PDT by dr_who
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Fear, fear. What is this fear. Everyone is afraid of obama. These Senators need to go in front of the cameras and speak to the American people and tell them in no uncertain terms what he is planning to do. Don’t wait until after he does it. These wimps need to take a cue from Gov. Brewer


104 posted on 06/23/2010 4:14:27 PM PDT by jersey117
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Why do I feel like a stranger in my own country? How could we have fallen so far, so fast? I hope it’s not too late to turn things around. The 53% of American morons who put this guy in office better open their eyes and wake up!


106 posted on 06/23/2010 5:11:13 PM PDT by kamikaze2000 (You can lead a liberal to truth, but you can't make him think.)
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There will be a Civil War if Obama pushes amnesty by fiat. If Obama gives amnesty to 30 million illegals, then 50 million relatives will soon follow and then it's all over for our Sacred 5000 Year Miracle called the United States!

Amnesty: The Line in the Sand

107 posted on 06/23/2010 7:24:24 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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where...

Where will we draw the line?

When will we say enough??

What will finally provoke spontaneous direction action???

108 posted on 06/23/2010 7:24:27 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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