Senators Fear President Will Grant Amnesty By Executive Order...

Before It's News ^ | Jun 23 2010 | Eyes For You

[ripley]

The psychotic base loves the totalitarian actions of the Democrats, the war rhetoric and the condemnation of conservatives and republicans as neanderthals. (and the psychotic base grows ever larger)

IMHO

[only1percent]

This would be incredibly stupid. It would be immensely unpopular, and it would also be very ineffective as a matter of policy. Stupid enough to think that Obama wouldn't really do it.

The pardon power is broad, but it only extends to past acts: one cannot use it to immunize future illegality (such as taking or giving employment in the absence of a qualified immigration status). It also only extends to crimes: all the pardons in the world doesn't get one a Green Card or H1B if one isn't otherwise entitled to one under law, or qualify one for welfare assistance limited to citizens, etc.

The pardon would terminate the deportation proceedings of anyone who is now presently in them, but that can't be more than 1% of the total illegal aliens, and that would be even more unpopular too, given that a fairly higher percentage of deportation processes are triggered by coming to the attention of the ICE for other reasons -- often the commission of non-immigration crimes.

Bottom line is the only way to make it stick as a policy equivalent in some respects to a statutory amnesty would be to have a policy of rolling pardons -- at 8 a.m. every day he pardons all the prior days' immigration violations and eligibility to work violations, which would allow physical presence and employment, but not other attributes of legal presence. This would be a truly immense overreach.

(And, of course, the middle class would feel the pain, because the simple fact is the country already has a surplus of low-skill labor from south of the border ... whereas the new policy would get millions of high skill workers from south of the border and across every ocean here competing vigorously for every professional and managerial job that couldn't previously have been off-shored.)

[ripley]

“My complaint is with the people who voted for him.”

Same here.

They sound like organs of the propaganda ministry.

They speak buzz words like, “Halliburton”, “big oil”, “big pharma”, “greed”, ‘global warming”, and on and on....then they go into default mode when you try to debate them and call you a neanderthal, knuckle-dragging, bible-thumping, gun-loving moron who “doesn’t get it”.

They’re the ones who are cutting off debate and not allowing any opposition. They have declared themselves superior intellectuals and those who disagree total idiots.

They are the new Khmer Rouge, the KKK of self-appointed intellectual supremacy.

Hopefully, the psychotic base will get less psychotic. (Then again, they’ll probably get even more psychotic as election time rolls around.)

IMHO

[wny]

that’s the problem with pubbies. they sit there and “fear” instead of doing something.

[Madame Dufarge]

It’s over.

Prove me wrong people. Prove me wrong.

It's not over, it's just beginning.

A Republican governor has been elected in New Jersey, a Republican Senator has been elected in Massachusetts, Tea-Party-endorsed candidates are moving to the forefront, the country's waking from its slumber.

The American Revolution didn't happen overnight, it took years for it to finally erupt.

And when it did, they didn't have the benefit of the magnificent blueprint known as the U. S. Constitution.

We have that advantage, as the venerable old document is even now being dusted off and its worth being recognized anew.

It's not over by a longshot.

[CPT Clay]

I looked at that when I went to the Tea Party on April 15th.

Lafayette Park is closed to protest. Armed security is everywhere. And the area around the White House would take alot of people. A flash mob of about 500 thousand people would be quite difficult.

[ChildOfThe60s]

But how do Republicans in congress shut down the government when they’re the minority in both the House and the Senate? We don’t have enough votes in congress to block all the outrageous stuff that this administration is doing.

I don't know for a fact, but I believe that in both houses, particularly the Senate, the minority party can be extremely obstructive using all the the parliamentary procedures available to them.

The Republicans won't go to the extremes available to them because they are *afraid* of being called names by the Dems and the media. "Cringe" is the middle name of most GOPers in congress.

Beyond that, I believe the illegality of the Dem's actions is to the degree that the Republicans should be resorting to physically disruptive tactics. Shouting down debate, literally obstructing the ability to hold a vote. Block the halways, the floor, things of that nature.

We are witnessing a virtual ongoing coup here. IMO, nearly anything is justified in this fight. It's fight or die. In a real street fight you better not worrying about playing fair or you will end up in the hospital, or dead.

Finally, the Republicans are so squeamish that any of the few objections they vocalize are so "proper" it's disgusting. They need to be filing lawsuits and legal objections to everything Hussein does. I mean every little trivial thing.

If the press is going to excoriate you for a polite objection to an unconstitutional act, then quit being a pussy. Object in loud and vehement terms. Call O a Marxist, do it every time you talk to the press. Never let up.

It makes me livid that Republicans use all sorts of weenie terms for LIAR, but are too chicken$hit to say it. Then if one does, he is bludgeoned into apologizing by the rest of the weak sisters in the party.

[Munz]

The boy king will lose great support from everyone but his extreme leftist base who is also interested in destroying the United States as we know it.

Everyone else will be ready to recall him and replace him. maybe even many in congress.

It would be too far a reach for him. But if he wants to then do it. It only makes his demise that much swifter and more assured.

[Theodore R.]

Yes they will stand for it; he can just say he is doing what John McPain advised him to do.

[petertare]

Not so fast. Did not the Clinton admin (Holder) grant a pardon to the Puerto Rican terrorists at the end of the Bubba presidency?

[petertare]

Not so fast. Did not the Clinton admin (Holder) grant a pardon to the Puerto Rican terrorists at the end of the Bubba presidency?

[Reaganwuzthebest]

By the looks of it the president can pardon lowlifes like that even though Puerto Ricans are considered American citizens. Personally I think this is just a threat to force it through the Senate. It won’t work.