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To: friendly_doc
Sodomy laws become a little bit less appealing when one realises that sodomy does not mean homosexuality. The old sodomy laws criminalised a whole range of non-reproductive sex acts, including oral sex, and even married couples didn’t get a pass.

There have always been "lewd act in public place" ordinances, so yes, even "married couples" that were doing natural acts in public have been prosecuted under that statute. Considering that homosexuals have taken their sexual perversion "out of the bedroom" and made their sodomous acts of perversion "mainstream" in our society, it's time to put them back underneath the rock whence they came. What other group whose "identity" is based unnatural sex has FORCED it's way into valuable American institutions such as marriage and the nuclear family, the military, the church, education and youth mentor groups, with the intent of redefining them and eventually destroying them? None.

If you really want to bring all that stuff back - with all the possibility of governmental mischief that it entails - then you go out and tell people about it, and then ask them to vote conservative. Good luck with that.

Enforcement of public decency laws has never been deemed as "mischievous". We have laws on the books that prevent law enforcement from kicking in doors without probable cause. Your libertarian beliefs is what got our society into the trouble that it's in today, it's time we get back to the values of God, not moral relativist man.

74 posted on 06/24/2010 9:20:23 AM PDT by aSeattleConservative
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To: aSeattleConservative; friendly_doc; Dr. Eckleburg
Enforcement of public decency laws has never been deemed as "mischievous". We have laws on the books that prevent law enforcement from kicking in doors without probable cause. Your libertarian beliefs is what got our society into the trouble that it's in today, it's time we get back to the values of God, not moral relativist man.

If you're talking about enforcement of PUBLIC decency laws, that's one area in which I definitely take issue with the extremist Libertarians -- as long as we have "public commons" (and I'll leave the arguments for privatizing roads and parks, etc., for another day), then as a taxpayer I consider myself a "part owner" of those public commons; and as a shareholder, I think I have every right to cast my vote in favor of upholding some moral standards in those public commons. "Friendly_Doc", don't do it in the streets and scare the horses.

On the other hand, Seattle -- at the very moment you step off the public sidewalk and onto my private property, you lose any moral authority to regulate what sort of private foreplay my wife and I might see fit to enjoy in the privacy of our own home. That's not the enforcement of Biblical Virtue; it's a Trespassing, which is a Biblical Sin. If a man is not committing one of the Five Great Harms identified in Romans 13:1-10 by the Apostle Paul as grounds for Government prosecution (Murder, Adultery, Theft, Fraud, and/or "covetous" Abuse & Malfeasance), then His Home is His Castle. Period.

75 posted on 06/24/2010 9:35:02 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: aSeattleConservative

Tuche!


78 posted on 06/24/2010 10:10:03 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: aSeattleConservative

Neither my post nor the article you linked was about “public lewdness”, but about the reintroduction of sodomy laws, which criminalise certain sex acts between consenting adults IN PRIVATE. It goes without saying that sex acts in public places should continue to be prohibited by law.


108 posted on 06/24/2010 3:05:42 PM PDT by friendly_doc
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