Posted on 06/23/2010 7:05:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
You won’t be able to run AC in the heat of the day and you can do your laundry and cooking between the hours of 11:00 PM and 6:00 AM.
Progress!
Not on MY house!
My utility offers a program whereby they tell users a day in advance what the cost per KwH will be for the next 24 hours, and each person decides how they choose to use electricity at that rate. A “smart meter” tabulates usage in hourly increments, but does not communicate or control anything.
Most of us make decisions every as to whether we spend our money on something, or decide to wait. This program brings that same ability to electricity usage and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Flat rate plans have always been artificial because when you “peanut-butter” costs across a range of users, some get screwed and some get a free ride, and there is no incentive to save money.
Ditto. IPL has been pushing this for a few years. I know my energy needs and pay accordingly. Enough of snooping.
This article is a complete scare tactic.
The bottom line with Smart Grid is consumers will ALWAYS have a choice about how they use energy but will pay the REAL price of energy. THAT will have consumers taking a real look at how they use energy and PERHAPS making some changes.
Any attempt by any utility to control load only happens when it gets signed off by the customer. Period.
Do not take the mark of the beast! " ...without which one can not buy or sell"!!! do not fall for these entrapment's ... so called good for the user ideas.
If a person gives controls to others, do not be surprised when they use them for other results than the consumer expected.
1984 to the MAX is NOW! WATCH AND SEE!!!
God help us in our day, in Jesus name, amen.
More Larger and More efficient Nuclear power stations and distributed “Beta Decay Batteries” to help blanace the load.
Then start a program for Orbital Solar constructed using lunar mined and processed components.
It is the only way to do this. Setting up pinwheels and solar cells that only work 10 hours a day if lucky is just plain foolish.
Your an idiot.
>”You won’t be able to run AC in the heat of the day and you can do your laundry and cooking between the hours of 11:00 PM and 6:00 AM.”
Thats EXACTLY it. Minnesota Power called me about, oh, 4 or 5 years ago and wanted to put one of those new meters on my house AND a new thermostat inside. When I asked what it was and why they wanted to do it, they stated it was so they could limit power consumption when they needed to.
I told them as long as I pay for the power I use, I’ll use as much as I want, and to stay the hell away from my house.
People, do NOT get this. Do NOT keep relinquishing control of your life to these LIBERALS!
By God, if I want to have 25 electric heaters going, my AC on, and my furnace pumping out CO2 like Al Gore’s butt pumps out methane, then I’ll damned well do it, and NO LIBERAL is gonna tell me otherwise!
The authors of “Smart Gridâ€sound like the same bunch that promote “smart growth.â€Those are the socialists that reduce highway lanes for bike lanes, make straight roads crooked with crosswalk bump-outs, make intersections hard to drive through with roundabouts, add axle breaking road-bumps all in the name of improving safety but really meant to encourage commuters to use public transportation.
As it happened, we had a speaker at the Engineers Club this week who talked on electricity generation and distribution. The main theme of his talk was that electricity demand is already pushing maximum capacity. As to why the utilities don't build more power plants, he said one factor is a shortage of welders. We don't even have enough welders to build significantly more coal plants, let alone enough nuclear certified welders to build nuclear plants.
Instead of pushing more and more people to go to college, working our way down the Bell Curve, we'd do a lot better to encourage people to go into the skilled trades, including welding.
When the government assumes control I could see my central air being turned off at the whim of bureaucrats or to wait for the wind to be just right to move the windmills. I expect that my natural gas line will in the near future have a similar "feature" that cuts off my supply based on carbon output. Welcome to Obama world where we all will swelter or freeze in our own homes.
The article is total nonsense. Strawberries are more expensive in the beginning of a season than in its height. A worker's pay is greater during overtime. Hotel rooms are more expensive during tourist season and conventions.
The author assumes that energy should be different without explaining --- or even attempting to explain --- why; this stupid assumption is supposed to be self-evident.
And on top of that he uses the tactic of a scoundrel, simply trying to anger the reader.
The article is total nonsense. Strawberries are more expensive in the beginning of a season than in its height. A worker's pay is greater during overtime. Hotel rooms are more expensive during tourist season and conventions.
The author assumes that energy should be different without explaining --- or even attempting to explain --- why; this stupid assumption is supposed to be self-evident.
And on top of that he uses the tactic of a scoundrel, simply trying to anger the reader.
How will you avoid it?? The "electric company" owns the meter on your house now. Your only recourse is to go completely "off-the-grid", which also fits the "green agenda".
Not at all. Solar thermal with heat storage can be "stand-alone". It actually "mirrors" the demand cycle better than other choices. Cheaper...maybe not. Can also be retrofitted onto existing fossil (or nuclear) plants that use steam generators.
My personal preference is to "go nuclear" all the way, including re-processing and breeder reactors. But solar energy alone CAN run a high-tech civilization.
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