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To: patlin

“He clearly had a choice of nationalities at his coming of age, he refuses to show the documents that prove without a doubt that he chose the US.”

Ummm...you do realize that normally no such documents would exist. It would require an affirmative act for him to have applied for Kenyan citizenship, which would also have required him to renounce US citizenship. And even you aren’t loony enough, are you, to think he is a loyal subject of QE2?

My sister never formally renounced German citizenship, but she has been a US citizen her entire life.

The Founders had various ideas about citizenship, none of which was based on Netherlands law...and frankly, since the 14th amendment was ratified, none of their opinions would count anymore, anyways - the wording of the 14th applies, not what someone in Georgia wrote to someone else in 1798...

And where do you get this blame it on Bush crap? I gave an example from a squadron I was in of loonies - like yourself - who refused to accept him as President. You do remember the whole ‘selected, not elected’ meme, don’t you? Were you one of those?


254 posted on 06/29/2010 5:31:00 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: Mr Rogers
It would require an affirmative act..

How do we not know he didn't. He won't release his records or those of his deceased parents which were ordered by a Federal Judge to be released. WHAT IS HE HIDING? It has to be HUGE, especially since he is moving at warp speed with NO regard to the law or the Constitution.

And where do you get this blame it on Bush crap? I gave an example from a squadron I was in of loonies - like yourself - who refused to accept him as President...

1st of all, there is a HUGE canyon between qualifications & electoral college votes. 2nd, Bush didn't hide his past, he opened up his records and took it like a MAN. 3rd, you lump me into a group, yet you show no proof.

Also, bringing your family into the debate does NOT give any substance to the debate other than injecting personal emotions to distract the opponent.

The Founders had various ideas about citizenship, none of which was based on Netherlands law...and frankly, since the 14th amendment was ratified, none of their opinions would count anymore, anyways - the wording of the 14th applies, not what someone in Georgia wrote to someone else in 1798...

Various ideas? Where? Show us. You'd have us believe that what the founders wrote about in the Federalist Papers have absolutely no connection into interpreting the constitution. I'd like to hear you argue that in front of the Supreme Court. As far as the 14th, your claim that the words of a framer of the law didn't know what he was writing and thus the words of the law that he put on paper are of a different context than his spoken words on the floor of Congress explaining it is truly a strong case of IGNORAMOUS!

255 posted on 06/29/2010 5:55:56 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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