Rant on, and prove my point - you are a nut.
There were disagreements among the Founders about what citizenship meant and how it applied. Some said location (Madison), others parentage (the guy birthers always bring up) - and location eventually won out.
One of the causes of the War of 1812 was the British insistence that parentage gave citizenship, and the USA’s rejection of that idea. They claimed a British citizen was always a British citizen - sound familiar, your and your friends still try to say that is true about Obama - but the British LOST!
“Show me the law wherein it says that children of aliens born in the US are citizens, let alone natural born ones.”
Read the 14th Amendment. ‘Subject to the jurisdiction’ did not then and has never meant “already a citizen”. Sorry. You are wrong. By long legal precedence, it was accepted that the phrase included aliens here legally, unless they were here in the service of a foreign government.
We do not and have never looked to the Netherlands for our legal precedence and common law meanings. Again, you are wrong.
But don’t believe me. Go to court with your theories, and you will be shot down just like the 5-6 dozen birthers who have brought cases...because you are stupid.
You continually make statements such as the above yet you do not back it up with historical proof. Without proof, it is merely your opinion, not fact. We have given historical evidence, you have given NOTHING! put up or shut up, isn't that how the saying goes?
“The organic law says that no person but a natural-born citizen, or a citizen when it was made, shall be eligible to the office of President. This amendment would make all citizens eligible, Negroes as well as whites. For if Negroes are citizens they are natural born, because they are the descendants of ancestors for several generations back, who were born here as well themselves.”
The debate went on for several months...then
On May 30th, Sen. Trumbell(framer of the 14th) said that if you are born to parents owing allegiance to a nation in which the United States makes treaties with, you are NOT a citizen of the United States. You are an alien because you are not ‘subject to the jurisdiction’ of the US because at birth you are subject to the foreign nation in which the treaty is made.
Rogers was a bigot, a racist and a staunch supporter of slavery. What you neglect to address it the real reason for the 14th, the equal treatment for Negroes that was embedded in the Declaration & the Constitution. In the north, Negroes were elected to local & state offices. Many held prominent positions as full fledged citizens. Facts that the progressive, socialist, Marxist left have been trying eliminate form our history for decades. It has always been the lib democrats who voted against the freeing of the slaves and who were the racists. It was a lib Democrat citing that natural born meant being born to US citizens, as the declaration & constitution never declared race to be a hindrance and as we know, it was only the states of the south that withheld that right of the blacks. The 14th was about recognizing the rights of citizenship to the blacks, NOT about expanding US citizenship laws.