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To: rmlew
You are very big at building up strawmen. I guess that is the only way for you to have a chance at winning an argument. Put forth arguments that were never made, attribute them to you adversary and then attack them. Very Saul Alinsky-like.

Securing our liberty does not involve attacking every rabid anti-American group or even country. Our resources should not be squandered in such wastes of time. Bomb Afghanistan into the stone-age and exit. Simple as that. I know that certain cretins will say it is not that simple, but it absolutely is. Those who want us to stay have priorities other than the security of the US.

Europe can handle there own problems. We already take care of their military defense; how much more do we have to do?

You point about the US being a settler nation is just plain idiocy. The establishment of the US and the establishment of Israel couldn't be more different and if you don't agree, you don't have any grasp of history. Discussing this topic further is a waste of time.

The term "Likudnik" is a pejorative for those who worship at the feet of Bibi Netanyahu. If you are kookier than Bibi then pardon me.

21 posted on 07/01/2010 8:01:54 PM PDT by grand wazoo
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To: grand wazoo
You are very big at building up strawmen. I guess that is the only way for you to have a chance at winning an argument. Put forth arguments that were never made, attribute them to you adversary and then attack them. Very Saul Alinsky-like.
Other than suggesting that I am either a communist or have dual loyalties, do you have an arguement? And is the whole claim about "straw man argument" projecting?

Securing our liberty does not involve attacking every rabid anti-American group or even country
True, but they are in the US, you realize and around the world.

Bomb Afghanistan into the stone-age and exit. Simple as that. I know that certain cretins will say it is not that simple, but it absolutely is. Those who want us to stay have priorities other than the security of the US.
Fair enough. Next time I say we should bomb Iran, you are not going to suggest that I'm calling for ground troops, right?

Those who want us to stay have priorities other than the security of the US.
In so far as they are in both Afghanistan and Pakistan, your argument is a bit of a fallacy.

Europe can handle there own problems. We already take care of their military defense; how much more do we have to do?
We could stop our support for the EU and for the integration of Turkey into the EU.

You point about the US being a settler nation is just plain idiocy.
So the Mayflower, Roanoke etc are just a myth and we are indigenous?

The establishment of the US and the establishment of Israel couldn't be more different and if you don't agree, you don't have any grasp of history. Discussing this topic further is a waste of time.
Probably is. But I'm the one who understands that history did not begin in 1945.

The term "Likudnik" is a pejorative for those who worship at the feet of Bibi Netanyahu. If you are kookier than Bibi then pardon me.
I'd think that you'd apreciate nationalists who oppose US aid and interference in Israel. But I guess only America can have nationalism and Zionist should be shot on sight. Either that or you believe that the US should choose borders for other countries, which seems at odds with your other positions. Unless, Israel is special.

22 posted on 07/01/2010 9:24:49 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just a liberals who lies.)
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