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To: Willie Green

Willie, are you really this dense?

The current ticket price of $134 doesn’t cover the costs (in fact, it’s $32 under). And then you have to ADD the new deployment costs to it.

Meaning if you have 15 MILLION RIDERS A DAY (which is about 210 times MORE than you do now), and the deployment cost per rider is “only” $26.67, then you have a price of:

$134 + $32 + $26.67 = $192.67

At a minimum. Just to break even.

And that’s assuming an astronomical increase in ridership to spread the capital costs around. If daily ridership goes to 1.5 million (21 times more than today’s ridership) then your capital costs per rider are $266.67, and that train ride becomes $432.67.

And we haven’t even added the interest on the bonds to pay for deployment (which would be another $1.2 trillion, in addition to the $2 trillion for deployment).

Or is your contention that operational costs are zero once the trains are installed? Everyone works for free, and there is no wear-and-tear on the trains and tracks, they run on sunshine and hope so no cost for power, etc.

Seriously, can you NOT follow this? The deployment costs ALONE are huge, and would only ADD to the cost of existing tickets (which do not cover the costs as-is).


66 posted on 06/18/2010 3:49:38 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier; Willie Green
Willie, are you really this dense?

Seems so. But he REALLY likes choo-choo trains.

Most of the people pushing choo-choo trains are limousine leftists. They would love to force all the surfs onto The Peoples transportation. Just too damn much freedom goin' on oudaya!

67 posted on 06/18/2010 4:11:10 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
The current ticket price of $134 doesn’t cover the costs (in fact, it’s $32 under). And then you have to ADD the new deployment costs to it.

Don't be silly... those are the old costs for the old Amtrak train.
We can't use those because we have a new train now and it runs much more efficiently.

So your "deployment" costs are still $26.67 And that Amtrak ticket of yours is still $134. And we still have a $107.33 profit margin traveling from LA to NO. And now it only takes 9½ hours, so we don't need to buy a superliner roomette.

So if you have other costs to account for, you have to take them out of that $107.33 profit margin.
But I don't see how you're gonna do it.
Trains are pretty efficient to operate, you know.
Especially after you cover your deployment costs, like you already did.

68 posted on 06/18/2010 4:13:37 PM PDT by Willie Green ("Some people march to the beat of a different drum - and some people polka. ..")
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