Posted on 06/17/2010 5:27:33 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW
The International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea was first adopted in 1914 in response to the Titanic disaster. Along with mandating the number of lifeboats and the notification of a ship's routes, it also dictates that any ship in the area of a distress call will divert to assist that ship.
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Actually, I see the whole thing as Balloon Boy II
“And who judges that?”
The person contemplating the act.
When they are made to pay for the consequences, they will do the contemplation is a serious and responsible manner. When others bear the cost, they have no incentive to do so.
No kidding.
Not only should Abby's family be forced to pay for the rescues, that irresponsible man who got caught in Afghanistan should be forced to pay for his rescue too. .
He's way too old to take on such a strenuous challenge, he wasn't properly funded or equiped, he went into extremely dangerous territory, and he was doing it for the fame.
MAKE THEM PAY!
That’s why Obama shut down the offshore oil rigs. He had an excuse, and he, like only the best of Chicagoland, was resolved to extort his fees to ALLOW them to restart, to allow ANY COMPANY to restart.
MAKE THEM PAY FOR ALL FOOLISH AND RISKY BEHAVIOR!
... and watch what happens. Actually we ARE watching it.
Even the U.S. Sailing Association refused to sponsor Sunderland's bid, considering it too dangerous. She did not have insurance for her trip,
Of course not, her insurance was the Australian taxpayers.
And people accuse *me* of being “pro-nanny-state” on this issue.
Isn’t acting responsibly a conservative tenant?
So your position is that if BP came by your house and dumped ten barrels of crude on your front yard, asking them to pay for the clean up is “extortion”?
Obama’s agenda notwithstanding, there is no reason why BP shouldn’t be held responsible for the cost to clean up this mess.
That's because they're reacting emotionally and not using logic. They even ignore facts.
>> I posted this on another Abbbey16 thread, time to repost it.
I gave the young woman’s journey a +1. Are you in favor, or against?
What is driving this emotion?
They aren’t sailors, in fact most sailors know how foolhardy this stunt was, so it isn’t some empathy for her love of sailing.
So what is it, can it just be they don’t want to see a 16 year old girl criticized for any reason.
I don't understand it. All the facts are against this being a well thought out project. It was rushed and risky. So I just don't understand.
I am sorry for not explaining what is happening here more clearly.
Obama is setting a precedent and making an example.
Any corporation that wants its wells back online will have to pay. BP’s just an excuse. The singleton example that allows a very bad reaction to become practical law.
If someone’s car loses the oil drain plug along my property, and dumps the oil along my property, I may or may not ask for damages — I certainly would have a claim if I did so. Still, my first concern would be helping them get out of their difficulty.
Yet when someone’s car leaks accidentally onto a would be dictator’s “property”, he then issues a seizing of everyone’s car and forces all to install special drain plugs and drain plug loss detection equipment that his biddy buddy Mr. Chicagoland makes. Then everyone has to pay a release fee to get their car back, and a new fee for a “trust fund” every year.
But he doesn’t stop there. The seizing sets an precedent. Before, no magistrate could seize a car because of “possible danger” — the danger had to be actual. Now every thing any one owns is subject to seizure by some made-up whimsy of a possible danger.
That's the ticket! You just know! You know all!
Why don’t you read all of my replies on the matter, instead of asking me to restate?
You get it. And add in one other factor. Her doing it with only one canteen of water is fine, since all she has to do is push a button to get rescued.
You understood the facts once they came out. There are others that are still emotionally clinging to the “dream”. From what sailors on FR are saying and what I’ve read on a sailing forum, the kid never had a chance.
You were comparing asking the parents to pay for the rescue with asking BP to pay for the cleanup. But they you make it not about asking BP to pay for the cleanup but Obama’s extortion of BP. Then you compare asking the parents to pay for the rescue to the Obama’s extortion and implying that people who want the parents to pay are no different from Obama trying to extort BP.
Just stick to the issue and stop bringing Obama into it. This has nothing to do with him and his extortion.
This is about holding people accountable for their actions so that we can have a society of responsible people, without responsible people, freedom is not possible.
Especially if he did it in sneakers and a track suit, and his only emergency plan was to activate an EPIRB and have the world at large come rescue him in a wintertime blizzard at 23,000 feet.
But hey, that's just me.
You probably know a lot more about ocean sailing than I do.
sorry for my Take a Valium rant...HA!
oops.
this go to me that people condone this in the name of conservatism..yeesh. If you think this was ‘courageous’ go for it..just don’t drag my political view into it.
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