I consider the ability to choose one’s representation a matter of “liberty”. Right on topic.
“I consider the ability to choose ones representation a matter of liberty.”
When one chooses to commit a crime..in this case a felony...one also choses the consequences that come along with it..
“Thats it?
You respone with a POLL and a bow to the wishes of a plurality?
Not much of an argument.
Im glad we live in a Constitutional Republic”
We are also a nation of laws (for the time being)....when you voluntarily break those laws you also voluntarily accept the penalties for breaking those laws....in most states that means the loss of certain rights....such as owning a firearm or voting...
It is neither cruel nor unusual...
The link was the the heritage foundation and the submitted counter testimony provided to congress on the matter of felon voting rights...
I consider the heritage foundation to be conservative...do you?
“Conservatives support A LOT of stupid shit.
The War On (Some) Drugs, for a start.”
I agree.....but Buckley was a staunch conservative and he was against the war on drugs...I agree with Buckley as well.
“You make the mistake of choosing a particular alignment and ascribing infallibility to it.”
No...I take note of who sponsors such legislation and who advocates for this position (felon rights)....liberals.
Unless perhaps you dont consider Clinton,Kerry and the ACLU to be liberal...I do...
If you can find some support for this amongst conservatives I may revisit my opinion that this is a liberal cause.
“I, too, believe THE STATES should reserve the manner in which they hold elections, as per The Constitution. In this case, I believe The Several States have fallen to popular whim and abrogated the rights of citizens according to popular whim.”
Again...we are in full agreement...but for opposite reasons...the states have everyright to restrict those who have broken it’s laws (felony) and has every right to keep said persons from owning firearms, vote, living within a thousand feet of a school, or work in a day care (sex offenders) or get a drivers license (DUI)...
None of these are deemed cruel or unusual even though it may vary by state.
A federal law restoring felons voting rights is a usurpation of states rights.
On one hand...You are asking for a hodgepodge of state laws where “empathy” is at play...whereas certain felons are reinstated and others are not....on a case by case basis...
While at the same time asking for a federal law that will be a blanket re-instatement for ALL felons regardless of the crime...
And I would remind you that in most states one may petition to the court to have these rights reinstated by having your record expunged.
There is a road to getting your rights back that you willingly surrendered by the commision of a felony, but it requires you prove to the court that you are worthy of that reinstatement.
I think we’ll call this a gentlemans diagreement ...Ok?