Recording from the black boxes shorter by 16 s. (Copy of CVR Missing 16s Compared to Transcripts)

RMF FM investigative reporters found that the first recording, recording conversations with Presidential Tupolev missing 16 seconds.

According to the reporters it was the missing piece that went to Moscow in the middle of last week, the head of Ministry of Internal Affairs George Miller.

16 seconds is the difference between record of the transcripts , and recording that the CD got the Polish analysts from the Institute of Forensic Research in Kraków.

- Leaked transcripts were full. This CD was missing 16 seconds, which were recorded in stenogramie - confirmed in an interview with reporter RMF FM spokesman for the military prosecutor's office Zbigniew Turnip.

Polish prosecutors say that there is now concern that were cut - it's strange, because suddenly it turns out that the recording is - to put it mildly - sloppily copied - we read the rmf24.pl.

the simple answer is Putin wanted to send a message. The landing lights at the field were modified to encourage a low approach, then remodified after the landing. The 16 seconds are the comments that refer to the modified lights.

Just as Obama sent the Poles a message by pulling their antiballistic missile system on the 17th of September (anniversary of the Day Soviet Union invaded in 1939) Putin wanted to remind the Poles of how Soviet Union murdered tens of thousands of polish officers at Katyn Wood. What better way than to arrange the murder of the top echelons of the Polish government on their way to Katyn Wood?

And so it was done.

So soon as we can put pressure on Obama, so soon he will fold like a cheap chair. His mother had poor health and died young. His putative father died young. Nothing in his background shows guts or stick-to-it-iveness. Apply more pressure, apply more ridicule, and throw out his fellow travelers in the House and Senate.

More tin-hat idiotic ramblings.

I'm with you.

The plane was descending erratically and there were many warnings by the Terrain Avoidance Warning System in the cockpit. The crew was told twice that landing was not advisable.

They decided to feel it out anyway and impacted trees on rising terrain below the level of the runway.
The serpentine line with red arrows is the vertical profile of their descent.

Also, if you search "Smolensk" in Google Earth and zoom in, you will notice there are NO LANDING LIGHTS on either approach.
That's because there is no ILS.

Another rocket scientist ---

"...Also, if you search "Smolensk" in Google Earth and zoom in, you will notice there are NO LANDING LIGHTS on either approach. That's because there is no ILS."

You had better read the transcripts where the Jak-40 crew tell PLF 101 that there are "gates" 200 meters from the runway.

Gates are lights left and right of the runway and if you looked at the approach plate you would see runway lights signified on both of the runways.

But then again pictures are worth a thousand words. Behold runway approach lights at Smolensk North.

http://smolensk.ws/blog/169.html

BTW the chart you posted - The timelines are off. At 10:39.55 the plane was at 400 meters according to the chart you posted.

The powerlines that were cut, show the crash was about the same time when they were at 400 meters in altitude.

Behold pictures of the powerline below.

http://smolensk.ws/blog/183.html

Now for the time it crashed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Polish_Air_Force_Tu-154_crash

"...The Tupolev Tu-154M of the 36th Special Aviation Regiment[16] carrying Polish President Lech Kaczyński crashed at 10:41 MSD (initially released estimates gave the time as 10:56 MSD ,08:56 CEST, 06:56 UTC),[6][17][18]"

You have to love Wikipedia and how lousy it is in accuracy.

As you can see the chart you posted corresponds with the original time the Russians had stated it crashed. 10:41 MSD.

But the actual time was near 10:39 --

"...There is still a discrepancy between the time of the crash registered by MARS flight recorders (10:41:05.4), ATM-QAR recorder(10:41:04) and the time when electricity lines were cut by the crashing plane just a second or two before the final crash (time of the cut registered by Smolensk power plant was 10:39:35).[56]"

At 10:39 according to what the Russians are alledging, the plane was at 400 meters and 6km from the runway.

However, the plane at 10:39 cut the power lines and the clock at the station stopped at 10:39, now those are some pretty tall powerlines if you ask me.

And they certainly where closer to the runway than the 6km.

Sorry there skeptoid, no cigar on your attempt to throw BS on this thread.

And that is why the orginal CVR should be investigated by Poland, Latvia, Canada, the U.S. and Israel.

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