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To: Star Traveler; CORedneck; Quix; TaraP
This is "standard" Evangelical fare and nothing unusual... so I wouldn't look at this as "off-the-wall" or anything like that.

I don't doubt for a moment that this is standard among Evangelicals, I would go as far to say that it is a defining characteristic of Evangelicalism, a teaching that distinguishes Evangelicalism from orthodoxy.

...the U.S. has put pressure on Israel to "divide the land" which goes totally against what God says about that...

It is statements like that which I would like to see some sort of Scriptural support. You do realize that the Land Promise was already fulfilled (Josh 11:23;21:41-45) and again we see it fulfilled in Solomon's days. (1 Kings 4:20-21). In fact, the Scriptures sum up this whole process in Nehemiah: He fulfilled His promise (Neh 9:21-25), then they didn't fulfill their end of the promise (vv 26-29), which resulted in this "Therefore You gave them into the hand of the peoples of the land" (v30). God's mercy is shown in that though forever dispersed, they were/are not consumed nor forsaken (v31).

So according to Scripture, It has been God's regular M.O. to send in nations to chasten the disobedient and "stiff necked" Jews, routinely hauling them off into captivity and then after an exile restoring them, in part, to the land. IOW, God regularly has "divided them up" and has used as His instruments other nations. In 33AD this back and forth ended with Jesus Christ and Pentacost with 70AD physically preventing any sort of restoration to the curse of the Law (Gal 3:10-14) and bondage (4:21-31). So I see this theory Evangelicals have as actually contrary to what Scriptures demonstrate and teach, and surely antithetical to the Gospel.

Maybe I am missing something. Perhaps one of y'all can correct this perception.

165 posted on 06/16/2010 7:28:23 AM PDT by The Theophilus
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To: The Theophilus; CORedneck; Quix; TaraP
You were saying ...

Maybe I am missing something. Perhaps one of y'all can correct this perception.

No problem... and as I said before I would run down some stuff for you... but right now (and last night) I've been running down some BP stuff and I'm still doing that ... :-)

I've got several articles lined up for that and more material coming, so I'm going to finish up with that first ...

And..., I know that the Bible prophecies don't change from week to week or from year to year or even over a millennia... so I've got time to follow up on that one. The BP stuff is changing just about every day, though ... hoo-boy!

IN ADDITION, what I might do for this particular topic is "open up a new thread" just on that topic alone ... and then we can have a wide-ranging discussion on it. In fact, I think that's exactly what I'll do, but that will be a bit later (and I'm talking about a day or two here). And I'll ping you and some others and then we can all have some fun ... yeeeooow! :-)

166 posted on 06/16/2010 7:54:14 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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